KQo against aggressive raising

**Romulus141** · 10-14-2005 11:59 PM

Hey, I'm new to FTR, nice to meet you all. I've been reading the forums for a while, and I decided that it's time to start contributing.

I have a hand from today that I'm a little confused about. Here it is:

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

, K

.
3 folds, MP2 calls, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP2 folds, CO caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 8

, 7

, 4

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.70 BB) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Qd Kh (flush, king high).
CO has Ad Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.70 BB.

I think I played the turn and river correct, but I'm not sure if I should made that reraise pre-flop. Also, I bet flop to see where I was , though after he raised me I was pretty sure he had a high pocket pair. Should I have even continued to the turn?

**Fnord** · 10-15-2005 12:23 AM

Misplaced aggression.

What range is the CO opening? Why did you 3-bet out of position in a heads-up pot against him instead of just check/raising a good flop? Does he laydown often enough to naked aggression after opening like this? What % of the time do you think you blow him off his hand?

**Romulus141** · 10-15-2005 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Fnord

Misplaced aggression.

What range is the CO opening? Why did you 3-bet out of position in a heads-up pot against him instead of just check/raising a good flop? Does he laydown often enough to naked aggression after opening like this? What % of the time do you think you blow him off his hand?

Okay, I see why my preflop action was faulty now. I should have just called, then seen what the flop held. So, if the flop comes the way it did, should I have just checked and then folded to a bet?

I hadn't been at the table long, so I had no reads on the kind of cards this player raises with. I had seen some crazy raises earlier in the day at other tables that would then fold to me on the river, and I think I let those incidents cloud my judgement of this situation. I've read SSH, but I've still got a long way to go in learning how to handle these kinds of situations.

I probably don't win this situation often enough to make what I did worthwhile. I'm not sure of an actual percentage.

**Fnord** · 10-15-2005 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Romulus141

Okay, I see why my preflop action was faulty now. I should have just called, then seen what the flop held. So, if the flop comes the way it did, should I have just checked and then folded to a bet?

Sometimes I check/fold. Sometimes I check/call. Rarely I will check/raise. It depends on what I think of the CO.

Originally Posted by Romulus141

I hadn't been at the table long, so I had no reads on the kind of cards this player raises with. I had seen some crazy raises earlier in the day at other tables that would then fold to me on the river, and I think I let those incidents cloud my judgement of this situation.

That's somewhat interesting, but you really want to know more about this particular player.

**jmontis** · 10-15-2005 01:07 AM

3-bet from the SB would be ok, but BB is just wrong.

dont bet the flop, maybe check call, most likely check/fold
turn is ok
river is ok

10-14-2005 11:59 PM #1
Romulus141 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 118 Location Oxford, PA	KQo against aggressive raising Hey, I'm new to FTR, nice to meet you all. I've been reading the forums for a while, and I decided that it's time to start contributing. I have a hand from today that I'm a little confused about. Here it is: PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K. 3 folds, MP2 calls, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP2 folds, CO caps, Hero calls. Flop: (9.40 SB) 8, 7, 4 (2 players) Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls. Turn: (6.70 BB) 9 (2 players) Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls. River: (8.70 BB) Q (2 players) Hero bets, CO calls. Final Pot: 10.70 BB Results in white below: Hero has Qd Kh (flush, king high). CO has Ad Ac (one pair, aces). Outcome: Hero wins 10.70 BB. I think I played the turn and river correct, but I'm not sure if I should made that reraise pre-flop. Also, I bet flop to see where I was , though after he raised me I was pretty sure he had a high pocket pair. Should I have even continued to the turn?

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10-15-2005 12:23 AM #2
Fnord View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2003 Posts 19,380 Location I'll Do You Like A Truck	Misplaced aggression. What range is the CO opening? Why did you 3-bet out of position in a heads-up pot against him instead of just check/raising a good flop? Does he laydown often enough to naked aggression after opening like this? What % of the time do you think you blow him off his hand?
	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
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10-15-2005 12:43 AM #3
Romulus141 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 118 Location Oxford, PA	Originally Posted by Fnord Misplaced aggression. What range is the CO opening? Why did you 3-bet out of position in a heads-up pot against him instead of just check/raising a good flop? Does he laydown often enough to naked aggression after opening like this? What % of the time do you think you blow him off his hand? Okay, I see why my preflop action was faulty now. I should have just called, then seen what the flop held. So, if the flop comes the way it did, should I have just checked and then folded to a bet? I hadn't been at the table long, so I had no reads on the kind of cards this player raises with. I had seen some crazy raises earlier in the day at other tables that would then fold to me on the river, and I think I let those incidents cloud my judgement of this situation. I've read SSH, but I've still got a long way to go in learning how to handle these kinds of situations. I probably don't win this situation often enough to make what I did worthwhile. I'm not sure of an actual percentage.

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10-15-2005 12:46 AM #4
Fnord View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2003 Posts 19,380 Location I'll Do You Like A Truck	Originally Posted by Romulus141 Okay, I see why my preflop action was faulty now. I should have just called, then seen what the flop held. So, if the flop comes the way it did, should I have just checked and then folded to a bet? Sometimes I check/fold. Sometimes I check/call. Rarely I will check/raise. It depends on what I think of the CO. Originally Posted by Romulus141 I hadn't been at the table long, so I had no reads on the kind of cards this player raises with. I had seen some crazy raises earlier in the day at other tables that would then fold to me on the river, and I think I let those incidents cloud my judgement of this situation. That's somewhat interesting, but you really want to know more about this particular player.
	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
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10-15-2005 01:07 AM #5
jmontis View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2004 Posts 1,321	3-bet from the SB would be ok, but BB is just wrong. dont bet the flop, maybe check call, most likely check/fold turn is ok river is ok
	take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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