www.flopturnriver.com

Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

Already Registered? Username: Password: Remember Forgot Password
Tweet

Korn/Onion/Salsa...not talking about a Mexican Dish.

LinkBack

Thread Tools

Display Modes

bigspenda73

04-23-2007, 07:34 AM Post subject: Korn/Onion/Salsa...not talking about a Mexican Dish.

#1 (permalink)

Straight Flush

Join Date: Jul 2006

Location: Pwnsylvania

Posts: 7,545

bigspenda73 will become famous soon enough

You guys seem to be playing the most Omaha around here. I'm getting really interested in the game and I'd like to know where you guys learned about it. The two forms I will be playing are:

PLO Hi
Limit Omaha 8b

Favorite book?
Web Link?
Videos?

Hit me up plz.

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!

KoRnholio

04-23-2007, 11:13 PM

#2 (permalink)

4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jul 2005

Posts: 2,165

KoRnholio will become famous soon enough

lol thread title is great

Favorite book by far is Bob Ciaffone's Omaha Poker. It's a very short book but has many valuable kernels of wisdom.

Online, I really haven't found much for PLO hi (quite a bit for O8, but I am so terrible at that game).

Haven't seen any relating to Omaha either.

More or less, I learned the PLO ropes myself by starting in the $5 buyin Pokerstars games and then working my way up. You can pretty much nut camp and fold non-nut type hands when bet into every time up to the $25 buyin games.

At 50PLO there are still many donks, but some people will try to pull off some bluffs and try to snap off aces.

I play mostly 100PLO (on crypto) now, and the games are much tighter, but there are still enough donks that drop in to make it pretty profitable. You can also exploit certain rocky players pretty easily because you can represent scare cards so easily and they are often still in "nutcamp 25PLO" mode.

Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.

glass_onion

04-24-2007, 04:41 PM

#3 (permalink)

Join Date: Apr 2007

Posts: 23

Simply think about it. That's how I learned.

By that I mean. On the flop, and turn, know your equity. HU and against 3 opponents. Get an idea of what they might have, and worst case what they could have, and know your equty against both.

Big thing, plan your next move like a chess match. You're going to pot that flop with top set? What do you do if 3 call and the turn flush completes? What line will get bottom set to continue? or... you are drawing, how will you get that guy who is potting into you to pay off? If you miss turn what's the plan? What river cards can you bluff him with? Are stacks deep enough to make it possible?

Know your position, and relative position (to preflop raiser, or table LAG donk).

There aren't any actual good books. That's why the game is so profitable. there also aren't any known programmed PLO bots yet, so far as I've found (yes, there are LOTS on NLHE, LHE, and especially MTT's).

Mostly, I like to think about where my money is coming from, both player wise and situational. Its all about thinking. Yes, you can nutpeddle a small living, but why?

salsa4ever

04-24-2007, 05:32 PM

#4 (permalink)

Full House

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Melbourne

Posts: 1,073

i've never read a book

the only website worth jack is the 08 site I think it's www.08poker.com (now defunct)

My most important resource is the 2 dimes hand calculator. It's scary how a winning player @ 200 and 400PLO can be constantly miscalculating his equity. You need to familiarize yourself with the common situations.

Example: AAxx 2 hearts on a JT5 2 hearts flop
What's your equity against JJ88, TQKA, 9TJQ, T532?

Hand reading is super important too there's just a lot more information available to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred

Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.

Quote:

Originally Posted by salsa4ever

well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?

zenbitz

04-24-2007, 07:52 PM

#5 (permalink)

4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jul 2004

Posts: 2,911

Only thing I have read is the chapter in SS2. I have been splashing around playing $10PLO (once I got frisky and played $25). I agree with salsa, knowing your equity is quite difficult.

I will guess without cheating (assuming villian has no hearts, and your two "X"s are different): 40%, 70%, 66%, 55%

salsa4ever

04-25-2007, 02:13 PM

#6 (permalink)

Full House

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: Melbourne

Posts: 1,073

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenbitz

I don't think that's quite right

first hand is fairly accurate. I think it's more like 33%

second hand villain has 8 outs and you have redraws, so you're somethin like 75%

third hand your equity must be less than the fourth hand. it's a bigger 2 pair and there's a straight draw on the board. I think you might be 40%

fourth hand is very close to 50%. AA + flush draw vs 2 pair is a classic race situation in omaha.

I haven't checked this either. Feel free to prove me wrong.

zenbitz

04-25-2007, 03:12 PM

#7 (permalink)

4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jul 2004

Posts: 2,911

Oh, I didn't even count the 2 pair in hand 3! 4th hand I actually did a little math.

Hand 1 is actally 65-35, I think I didn't count his redraws to boats if you flush.

KoRnholio

04-27-2007, 04:57 PM

#8 (permalink)

4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jul 2005

Posts: 2,165

I found today's comic funny in relation to finding a good Omaha resource... http://www.plusev.net/

Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.

Fnord

04-27-2007, 05:46 PM

#9 (permalink)

Moderator

Join Date: Dec 2003

Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck

Posts: 19,333

Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

Read the Omaha Hi chapter in SS2
Read NLHE T&P by Ed Miller. The stuff about position and pot control is like 4x more important in Omaha high since hand values run so close pre-flop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

dranger7070

08-28-2010, 07:26 PM

#10 (permalink)

4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Oct 2008

Location: Wake up in the mornin feelin' like P. Diddy

Posts: 2,524

dranger7070 has a little shameless behaviour in the past

This hasn't been updated in a while but its in the sticky so...

Jeff Hwang's Pot Limit Omaha Poker (2008)
Jeff Hwang's 2nd book on PLO 6m (forget the name right now, too lazy to look up)

DC has 4 pretty good series introducing PLO:
- 2x6
- Solid State PLO
- Hellomaha
- Omahawks

11 part article introductory article - PLO From Scratch - http://www.donkr.com/articles/Default.asp?

drmcboy

08-28-2010, 09:14 PM

#11 (permalink)

DrButtInski
Administrator

Join Date: Aug 2004

Posts: 9,601

the book thread

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ks-167676.html

Latest Poker News
KoRnholio	05-26-2012, 03:08 PM Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ... more at Poker Blogs »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On HTML code is Off Trackbacks are On Pingbacks are On Refbacks are On Forum Rules

All times are GMT. The time now is 10:32 AM.

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum

This is not a gambling website.

Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

Poker Forum

All Other (Limit) Poker

Korn/Onion/Salsa...not talking about a Mexican Dish.

Play for FREE and practice your game at...