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acezrez
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05-29-2006, 01:08 PM
Post subject: KK's UTG +1
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My question is? You think I'm beat here.. maybe raise on the turn instead of calling it down?
Ultimate Bet 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K , K .
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 5 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, MP1 calls, BB calls.
Flop: (12.40 SB) 5, 7 , 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.
Turn: (10.20 BB) J (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
River: (12.20 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 14.20 BB
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sinky
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Assuming he is not a maniac, after the preflop and flop action, I would put him on AA, KK, QQ or JJ. So the J on the turn is not a great card. You are now only beating QQ. If you raise the turn, more often than not you will get 3 bet by AA or JJ and you still have to call down. I would do as you did and call the turn and river bets.
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Harry
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I'd put him on AA or QQ. I think calling down on the turn and river was the right move.
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silverfist
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I think there's no question here he's got a high overpair. Given that you capped pre-flop, I'd say it's very doubtful he'd be coming after you with tens. So, he's either got jacks (3 permutations left), queens (6 left), kings (1 left) or aces (6 left). So, 9 out of 16 times you're behind, 6 out of 16 times you're ahead and 1 out of 16 time you're tied. Calling down's the right move.
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6high
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This is standard.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sinky
If you raise the turn, more often than not you will get 3 bet by AA or JJ and you still have to call down.
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AA doesn't 3-bet this turn very often. Usually at this point you get credit for something better than 1 pair.
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arkitekton
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sinky
Assuming he is not a maniac, after the preflop and flop action, I would put him on AA, KK, QQ or JJ. So the J on the turn is not a great card. You are now only beating QQ. If you raise the turn, more often than not you will get 3 bet by AA or JJ and you still have to call down. I would do as you did and call the turn and river bets.
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You raised ep and, out of position, he 3-bet. This strongly suggests at least AKs. I have to think that since he saw you cap the flop, which suggests AA or KK, then check raised you on the flop *anyway*, that there's a good chance you're beat. Only a poor player in the big blind would play this way with less than KK. Folding to the flop cap is possible, but I doubt I'd be up to it. I'm pretty sure that at the table I'd just call the check raise on the flop, and call down the turn and river.
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