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Old 04-22-2005, 03:50 AM     Post subject: KK when A comes -- Too Aggro? Too weak? #1 (permalink)  
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Opponent is solid and aggressive. My image is tagg/rock.

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ANTES/BLINDS
euchrestoner posts blind ($0.50), badbeat_99 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
barca68 folds, loser072 folds, acs2010 folds, SAElliott folds, wzeller bets $2, lawmac folds, peej23 folds, ProudCanuck folds, euchrestoner folds, badbeat_99 calls $1.

FLOP [board cards AH,9D,JD ]
badbeat_99 checks, wzeller bets $1, badbeat_99 calls $1.

TURN [board cards AH,9D,JD,AC ]
badbeat_99 checks, wzeller bets $2, badbeat_99 bets $4, wzeller folds.

SHOWDOWN
badbeat_99 wins $12.




SUMMARY
Dealer: ProudCanuck
Pot: $12.50, (including rake: $0.50)
lawmac, loses $0
peej23, loses $0
ProudCanuck, loses $0
euchrestoner, loses $0.50
badbeat_99, bets $7, collects $12, net $5
barca68, loses $0
loser072, loses $0
acs2010, loses $0
SAElliott, loses $0
wzeller, loses $5
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Old 04-22-2005, 04:53 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 looks ok to me. i usually call the raise and pray for a miracle on the river. but in this case if he has AK then you are drawing dead. not to mention AJ and A9.
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:36 AM     Post subject: Re: KK when A comes -- Too Aggro? Too weak? #3 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by face
Opponent is solid and aggressive. My image is tagg/rock.

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ANTES/BLINDS
euchrestoner posts blind ($0.50), badbeat_99 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
barca68 folds, loser072 folds, acs2010 folds, SAElliott folds, wzeller bets $2, lawmac folds, peej23 folds, ProudCanuck folds, euchrestoner folds, badbeat_99 calls $1.

FLOP [board cards AH,9D,JD ]
badbeat_99 checks, wzeller bets $1, badbeat_99 calls $1.

TURN [board cards AH,9D,JD,AC ]
badbeat_99 checks, wzeller bets $2, badbeat_99 bets $4, wzeller folds.

SHOWDOWN
badbeat_99 wins $12.




SUMMARY
Dealer: ProudCanuck
Pot: $12.50, (including rake: $0.50)
lawmac, loses $0
peej23, loses $0
ProudCanuck, loses $0
euchrestoner, loses $0.50
badbeat_99, bets $7, collects $12, net $5
barca68, loses $0
loser072, loses $0
acs2010, loses $0
SAElliott, loses $0
wzeller, loses $5
Can u stop using the word bet, ?definately it is a raise.
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:38 AM     Post subject: Re: KK when A comes -- Too Aggro? Too weak? #4 (permalink)  
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{ fnord - removed the silly over-quote. }

by the way, as hyper said, a turn rasie seldoms nth, he has a A and u got beaten.
I won't call in turn sometimes , even with my kk
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Can you PLEASE use the hand converter? It's a lot simpler to read thanks...
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:16 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Frankly, I can't use the hand converter. I have tried numerous times and it doesn't recognize the format. I believe the problem is that I'm using a Mac, as I haven't heard anyone else have a problem, and the converter apparently works for hand histories from pokerroom. Does anyone else use a Mac? Has anyone had a problem with the hand converter not recognizing their hand histories' format?
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Old 04-25-2005, 06:27 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 ya know what, i just re-read this and realized you are up against the BB. sometimes when i am defending my BB heads up, i do exactly what badbeat did, which is check-call the flop, then checkraise the turn (esp. a scary turn) hoping the raiser has two unimproved high cards and will fold.

it's possible you got played. but the BB had to believe you hit that ace on the flop, so a bluff-raise on the turn would be mighty gutsy. heads up, you probably don' t have good enough implied odds to call him down every time.

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Old 05-11-2005, 09:19 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Can anyone give brillaint ideas, when
we have kk , and board comes and A when we are not drawing flush or straight.

For example, I don't know how to do when
I have kk , preflop raise , except sb and bb.

flop : A 5 9 rainbow.
sb check, bb bet, i am kk . What should I do . CALL/RAISE? or even FOLD?
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Old 05-11-2005, 09:50 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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flop : A 5 9 rainbow.
sb check, bb bet, i am kk . What should I do . CALL/RAISE? or even FOLD?
I usually just fold on a draw free board, although sometimes I call down. Try to figure out if he's the type to lead Ax here or is more likely on something like 9x 5x or god knows what.
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