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KK hands, an after thought
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pokerfanatic
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06-07-2005, 09:51 PM
Post subject: KK hands, an after thought
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Hand 1:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: pkrfanatic is BB with K , K .
UTG raises, 7 folds, pkrfanatic 3-bets, UTG calls $0.25 (All-In).
Flop: (6 SB) 3 , 5 , A (2 players, 1 all-in)
Turn: (3 BB) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (3 BB) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: 3 BB
First hand I had when I sat at this table was this one so I had no reads, I personally think pushing here is the right play because the fact he has 1/2 a sb left in his stack...
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Hand 2:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: pkrfanatic is CO with K , K .
UTG raises, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, pkrfanatic 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (13.50 SB) 2 , 6 , Q (4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, pkrfanatic bets, UTG raises, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, pkrfanatic 3-bets, UTG caps, MP2 calls, pkrfanatic calls.
Turn: (12.75 BB) 8 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, pkrfanatic bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls.
River: (15.75 BB) 4 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, pkrfanatic bets, UTG calls, MP2 folds.
Final Pot: 17.75 BB
UTG is a complete maniac he is also very Argo... not sure if I played this one right...
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Hand 3:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: pkrfanatic is MP3 with K , K .
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, pkrfanatic raises, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (11 SB) A , 4 , 4 (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, pkrfanatic bets, SB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds.
Turn (6.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
MP1 checks, pkrfanatic checks.
River: (6.50 BB) T (2 players)
MP1 checks, pkrfanatic bets, MP1 calls.
Final Pot: 8.50 BB
Shouldn't have bet the river and probably shouldn't have bet the flop with that many players in... Should have check/ folded to aggression if there was any…
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Hand 4:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: pkrfanatic is CO with K , K .
UTG raises, 5 folds, pkrfanatic 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) Q , A , J (2 players)
UTG bets, pkrfanatic calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, pkrfanatic bets, UTG raises, pkrfanatic calls.
River: (8.75 BB) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets, pkrfanatic calls.
Final Pot: 10.75 BB
ugly flop, only real outs I have are 4 (3 10s that don't give the flush and a K might be good but not always so I’ll give it maybe 1 out), I think I should have let this one go on the flop...
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Hand 5:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: pkrfanatic is Button with K , K .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, pkrfanatic raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (10.50 SB) 2 , A , 3 (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, pkrfanatic calls.
Turn: (6.75 BB) A (3 players)
BB bets, MP1 folds, pkrfanatic calls.
River: (8.75 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB bets, pkrfanatic calls.
Final Pot: 10.75 BB
Again probably should have let it go on the flop...
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Hand 6:
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: pkrfanatic is UTG with K , K . CO posts a blind of $0.5.
pkrfanatic raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO (poster) calls, 3 folds.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 2 , 2 , 4 (3 players)
pkrfanatic checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, pkrfanatic raises, MP1 folds, CO calls.
Turn: (5.75 BB) 9 (2 players)
pkrfanatic bets, CO calls.
River: (7.75 BB) 2 (2 players)
pkrfanatic bets, CO raises, pkrfanatic 3-bets, CO ....
Final Pot: 13.75 BB
Mike4066 had I debate about this one, he said he thinks that my 3 bet on the river was too aggressive, on the other hand the player I was playing against could make that raise with a lesser hand, what's your opinion on the issue?
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elipsesjeff
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H1: Good play
H2: Good
H3: Bet the turn
H4: Check behind the turn
H5: Raise the turn, possible fold to a reraise
H6: 3 betting is good.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
H3: Bet the turn
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Why?
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
H4: Check behind the turn
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Ditto, because you really have to fold to a turn c/r.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why?
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Eh, spice things up, it really looks like this guy is afraid of that ace or doesnt like his kicker. Check raise would make a good fold.
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pokerfanatic
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all these hands guys in the pot are unknown or loose...
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Why?
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Eh, spice things up, it really looks like this guy is afraid of that ace or doesnt like his kicker. Check raise would make a good fold.
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With the flush re-draw it's a tough fold to a check/raise. When a turn c/r would put me in a spot like that (neutral or thin +/-EV), and partiularly given his showdown value I check behind and play the river.
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Phyl
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Hand 1 and 2 look good. (In hand 1 what else are you going to do? )
Hand 3: I'd agree with a turn check against an average 3/6 opponent but at 0.5/1 I think you're giving up too much by not betting. You're often ahead and there is so much crap he will call with here including a drawing dead flush draw.
Hand 4: Check the turn, call a river bet unimproved.
Hand 5:
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H5: Raise the turn, possible fold to a reraise
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Why? This will make him fold worse hands and re-raise/call with better hands.
I'd play it the same.
Hand 6: Good, he'd raise the river with a 4 so I like a 3-bet.
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