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Old 09-06-2006, 11:05 AM     Post subject: KK 3-way pot #1 (permalink)  
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What's the most +EV play in this pot? Should I be 3-betting the turn?
Raise the river?

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Limit: $1/$2
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $97.75
UTG+1: $33.75
Hero: $54.13
Button: $99.65
SB: $47.75
BB: $94.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K K
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 2 T 3 (10.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: 9 (9.75BB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: 5 (12.75BB, 3 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 15.75BB
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:51 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I raise the turn.
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Old 09-07-2006, 05:46 AM #3 (permalink)  
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What are stats on UTG+1?
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:23 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 Weirdest line ever by BB, I mean, what can he have besides A4h/A4c or 46h?
This hand is just weird, UTG+1 likely has QQ/JJ/ or any big ten. BB could have anything the whole way, however, he did coldcall PF which makes me think it could be something like JT/QT/KT.

What would I do here? If I didn't know UTG+1 just calls the river, I think I dont raise the turn and but him on TT. Knowing what we know now, I raise this turn all the time. If his likely range is TT+/AT/Axh we beat plenty of those hands on the turn.

Jesus, I still cannot get over what BB could possibly donk, I mean, there is so much aggression on this hand, wouldn't you go for a c/r in this spot if you made a monster? I mean the 5d is not a scare card, BB has to know that someone will lead behind him, however, I could be giving him credit for knowing how to play.
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:41 AM #5 (permalink)  
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UTG+1 is seems a solid LAG 21/12
BB is a bit suspect and 33/14.
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:34 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I raise the turn.
Yes to try and drive out BB, but UTG 3 betting us would be bad since we can't fold. I don't mind either/or here, UTG likely has aces, BB likely chops with us or has J,J, or Q,Q
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I put BB on a flush draw. He is either donking the river because this is "the only way I can win" or his Ah4h just hit.

UTG+1 is the harder one - I put him on JJ-AA.

And yes, I raise that turn in most cases.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:10 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I put BB on a flush draw. He is either donking the river because this is "the only way I can win" or his Ah4h just hit.

UTG+1 is the harder one - I put him on JJ-AA.

And yes, I raise that turn in most cases.
I put UTG+1 on the same range, hence my hesitation.
I didn't put BB on a hand and was confused by the river donk.

Does this mean I'm half the player you guys are?

I was expecting to either win or lose depending on whether UTG+1 had a better or worse PP.

As some of you rightly suggested, BB had the wheel.
What does surprise me is how you guys all over-estimate the $1/2 players... it was A4o of course.
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