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Hermann the Lombard
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10-13-2007, 04:46 AM
Post subject: KJ heartening
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PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , K.
UTG calls, MP raises, 3 folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6.40 SB) 3, 4, 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (4.70 BB) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, MP folds, Hero calls.
River: (11.70 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 13.70 BB
MP is fishy: 53/2.2/0.4, I've seen him play 65o from Hijack and 54o from SB, but also AKs on the Button without raising.
UTG is my favorite villain. I have more hands on him than anyone else, but he's a bit confusing. 43/11.4/1.56 I've seen him call a PFR cold with T6o and then call my bets each street with a pair of 6s. I've seen him 3-bet PF with KTs in EP, and call PFR in BB with 97s. Usually multi-tabling.
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KoRnholio
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I probably cap the turn and bet-call the river.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Fnord
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It's online poker, cap the turn.
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DrivingDog
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I c/r this flop every time. Against this villian capping turn seems correct and b/c river as well.
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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DrivingDog
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10-13-2007, 10:03 AM
Post subject: Re: KJ heartening
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Originally Posted by Hermann the Lombard
I've seen him 3-bet PF with KTs in EP, and call PFR in BB with 97s.
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You should be calling pfr in BB with 97s, except against very tight open-raiser (<15%) from EP.
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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bigspenda73
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b/c or b/f river
Cant let him check behind straights/sets/lower flushes here.
Oh yea, CAP THE TURN!
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Hermann the Lombard
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10-14-2007, 12:57 AM
Post subject: Re: KJ heartening
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Originally Posted by DrivingDog
You should be calling pfr in BB with 97s, except against very tight open-raiser (<15%) from EP.
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I'll call with that too, but only if I have at least two in the hand in addition to the raiser. I think Hilger recommends one more than that.
Meanwhile, when UTG 3-bet I put him on an ace-high flush and that's why I called and then c/c the river. After 250 hands I just had that feeling...or I got distracted by the Murphy's Law Light flashing in my eyes.
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KoRnholio
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I can't see Ahxh leading out into the preflop raisor on the flop. Most of the time people will check-call or check-raise for value to get an extra bet from people on the flop.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Hermann the Lombard
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Well, as the middle of 3 players--at these stakes--you can't really count on the third player acting. First player has a decent shot at a check-raise, by the middle it could easily check around.
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DrivingDog
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Originally Posted by Hermann the Lombard
Well, as the middle of 3 players--at these stakes--you can't really count on the third player acting. First player has a decent shot at a check-raise, by the middle it could easily check around.
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Next time c/r the flop please. 15 outs to top pair or better you're equity has to be > 50% here. More flop bets that go in the better for you.
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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pokerfanatic
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Originally Posted by Fnord
It's online poker, cap the turn.
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yea i think a call here is silly i cap 100% the time
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Jibalob
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I'm capping the turn too but what about the river?
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pokerfanatic
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Originally Posted by Jibalob
I'm capping the turn too but what about the river?
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granted that the river card is ugly as hell, and you capped the turn you might get checked to (maybe) and you can close the action with a check might as well do so... if you're lead into i have to make a crying call... pots to large to give up to a naked Q or something... or a straight getting cute...
Ah, 6h are only 2 cards the have you crushed so I'm seeing show down but i'm not putting in 2bb+ to do so... IMO, basically trying to see a SD cheaply... pots already large don't really need to get greedy in this spot...
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
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Jibalob
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I dunno... if I'm checked to on the river I think I'd find it hard not to bet. I'm not sure many people would try to c/r the river here with Ah or 6h for fear of it checking behind, if I'm checked to I feel pretty confident that I have the winning hand.
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Hermann the Lombard
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I'd agree about betting the river if checked to. At these stakes--or at least at that table--I wouldn't expect a c/r attempt. Given my read I still wouldn't cap that turn, but I do like the idea of c/r on the flop.
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Oh, no! Not another learning experience!
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Jibalob
I'm capping the turn too but what about the river?
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Bet and make a crying call if raised.
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