Originally Posted by Triptanes

WHy are you playing that hand?

Originally Posted by Triptanes

Ugh, ooops, you're a limit pussy ; thought it was NL.

Originally Posted by Triptanes

Ugh, ooops, you're a limit pussy ;) ; thought it was NL.

Originally Posted by Phyl

Easy bet on the turn. Why did you check?

Originally Posted by Nehmer

I would personally raise this hand preflop. I hate open limping from anything, but UTG or UTG+1. After that I would bet the turn and then decide what to do if raised based on opponents past plays.

Originally Posted by Ltrain

For your question on the turn/river, do you have a read on the Villian? Would he bluff a flush? If not, then you can fold the turn.

I agree with Nehmer that I would raise this PF or fold. Even though it is looking at the results, this hand is an example of what can happen if you don't raise PF and lose more $$ on the expensive streets when you hit top pair. Also, if you hit your flush or a 4 card draw, you can do a continuation bet and are well disguised for the flush.

However, you know this table texture better than me. If you had raised PF, do you think Villian and two other players coldcall you anyway? If so, then I think it was a good play.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Just bet all the way. When he raises you at the end, look at the board and the pot size and go from there, but you'll probably have to call. In the end, this beats these guys for the max because they'll call all the way with all sorts of crap far more often than you'll be out-flopped (and not suck out) or sucked-out on.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Just bet all the way. When he raises you at the end, look at the board and the pot size and go from there, but you'll probably have to call. In the end, this beats these guys for the max because they'll call all the way with all sorts of crap far more often than you'll be out-flopped (and not suck out) or sucked-out on.

Originally Posted by RiverMonkey

I definitely agree with continuing to bet. But, what to do if you get raised on the turn?

In my experience, you need a good read on the player or game in general to decide how to handle a raise on the turn. If the raiser is a straight-forward player that isn't likely to raise just to represent the made flush then you can fold. I don't think you should be making this fold very often however (especially in larger pots where you have to be even more sure that they have you beat); if you fold too much your more observant opponents will peg you as weak-tight and start to make plays at you.

Originally Posted by Ltrain

Watch your stats/players. A playback from from an 80/0 passive player or calling station is probably not a bluff. A playback from an 80/20 agg maniac is more likely a bluff. Even without PT or PV, you should know these players within a few orbits by their play.