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pokerfanatic

05-24-2005, 01:14 AM Post subject: Intreasting BB hand

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I personaly think this guy played his hand WAY wrong missed at least 4bb here IMO...

Game #677234373: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/05/23 - 21:07:30 (ET)
Table "Cobalt" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 1: bobbisox sits out
Seat 2: RevGreen ($52.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Nisha ($40 in chips)
Seat 4: atantra ($147.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Systemat ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: bf17290 ($25 in chips)
Seat 7: bjangles ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 8: pkrbt ($65.75 in chips)
Seat 9: likemonky ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 10: pkrfan1 ($49.25 in chips)
likemonky: posts small blind $0.50
pkrfan1: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to pkrfan1 [Ah 4h]
RevGreen: calls $1
Nisha: calls $1
atantra: folds
Systemat: folds
bjangles: calls $1
pkrbt: calls $1
likemonky: calls $0.50
pkrfan1: checks
----- FLOP ----- [2h Js Tc]
likemonky: checks
pkrfan1: checks
RevGreen: folds
Nisha: bets $1
bjangles: calls $1
pkrbt: calls $1
likemonky: calls $1
pkrfan1: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [2h Js Tc][Ad]
likemonky: checks
pkrfan1: checks
Nisha: bets $2
Polen96 wins Royal Flush bonus at table Citation with prize of $500
bjangles: calls $2
pkrbt: folds
likemonky: calls $2
pkrfan1: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [2h Js Tc Ad][4s]
likemonky: checks
pkrfan1: bets $2
Nisha: calls $2
bjangles: calls $2
likemonky: calls $2
----- SHOW DOWN -----
pkrfan1: shows [Ah 4h] (Two Pairs, Aces and Fours, Jack high)
Nisha: shows [Qs Kc] (A Straight, Ace high)
bjangles: mucks hand
likemonky: mucks hand
Nisha collected $25.75 from Main pot

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pokerfanatic

05-24-2005, 01:33 AM

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Moral don't play your big hands like a pussy...

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05-24-2005, 03:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerfanatic01

Moral don't play your big hands like a pussy...

their play deserves more praise. they made 2 extra big bets by calling instead of raising, which might have folded the other 2 players.

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05-24-2005, 05:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hypermegachi

their play deserves more praise. they made 2 extra big bets by calling instead of raising, which might have folded the other 2 players.

At $1/$2 tables, people are too loose/passive and will sometimes cold call a turn raise drawing without the odds, or cold call a river raise with marginal holdings. Also, with this somewhat disguised hand, raising the river with the nuts will often get a weaker good hand to 3-bet/cap. On the other hand, with loose/passive players to follow, you can almost guarantee that these players will simply call, so that's a near-definite 2 big bets with this line of action.

It depends a lot on the table texture and reads, but still I think Nisha probably loses an average of ~2bb on a $1/$2 table by not raising here on the turn and/or river.

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05-24-2005, 06:05 AM

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Meh, I would be more concerned about your play after the flop.

The flop call was really thin, then after hitting your card on the turn you just check/call....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

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05-24-2005, 06:13 AM

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Meh, I would be more concerned about your play after making that pretty bad flop call.

agreed. i dont see any reason to be in the hand after that flop

Fnord

05-24-2005, 06:16 AM

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First time I read the hand I didn't see the backdoor flush (use the HH converter, damnit.)

Figure 1.5 outs on the BD flush
Maybe 1.5 outs for an Ace, but might be giving them too much credit with a JTx board since there is a very good chance you're drawing dead to the Ace.
Maybe .5 more outs for the runner runner wheel.

~3 outs.

$1 to call closing the action.
$10 in the pot.

Marginally bad call.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

Phyl

05-24-2005, 08:40 AM

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I think you should bet the turn once you hit the Ace.

Fnord

05-24-2005, 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phyl

I think you should bet the turn once you hit the Ace.

...and fold to a raise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

pokerfanatic

05-24-2005, 03:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Meh, I would be more concerned about your play after the flop.

The flop call was really thin, then after hitting your card on the turn you just check/call....

I know this I played the hand bad... flop play was real thin, turn play I probably don't have the best Ace out, and river play well the pot was big enough for him to raise and I think the two guy behind would have called anyways, they were playing real loose to begin with... I figured with just calls on the river I got lucky... wrong, There are a couple of mistakes in this hand I made:

1) Thin flop play shoulda folded
2) Didn’t bet my ace figuring someone had a stronger
3) My river play was thin betting out Aces up with so much out that COULD beat me...

I think he missed an extra 3bb on the river by not raising, the two cold callers and my call... the pot was large enough to justify the raise here I think most players with any sort of chance in hell at winning a hand could possible call... I think it could be argued either way, is why I posted it...

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