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Old 02-15-2005, 07:41 AM     Post subject: Interesting tip about KQ #1 (permalink)  
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 We've had some very enlightening discussion of KQ on a couple other threads here. I just ran across an article that made a point about KQ that I never really thought about...

The gist of it was that when you play AK/AQ/AJ in a raised pot, flop rags, but spike your ace on the turn, you are often reverse dominated by some A-rag that just caught two pair. After all, lots of fish will play any A against a raise, especially if it's suited.

However if your hand is KQ and you spike your pair on the turn, you are more likely to be in the clear, because K-rag and Q-rag are not going to be played as often against a pre-flop raise. Then you just have to worry about AK/AQ/AA/KK/QQ, but those kinds of hands usually make themselves known pre-flop.

Something to chew on...

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Old 02-15-2005, 07:49 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 What I hate about KQ is when you flop a pair and catch 2 pr on the turn, only to realize that your 2nd pair just completed somebody else's broadway straight. Or flopping 2pr and getting beaten on the turn/river to a broadway. Seems to happen a lot.

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LOL I just really damn cleaned this dude yesterday with that. I had KJs, flop had A&Q and turned the T.

What's funny is this guy (holding AQ) bet & capped 4th St and the river, even though I was showing no sign of letting up. I think maybe he thinks nothing beats two pair.
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:24 PM     Post subject: Re: Interesting tip about KQ #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
However if your hand is KQ and you spike your pair on the turn, you are more likely to be in the clear, because K-rag and Q-rag are not going to be played as often against a pre-flop raise. Then you just have to worry about AK/AQ/AA/KK/QQ, but those kinds of hands usually make themselves known pre-flop.
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So maybe this prescribes raising less to invest less until you see the turn? I am going to try an experiment along the lines of your new information which is as follows:

Pre - EP:
- Not play it UTG.
- Fold to a raise in front of me.
- Limp only at LAP tables.
- At fairly tight tables--fold
Pre-MP/LP:
- Later raise if not already raised.
Post - EP w/ limp:
- be ready to ditch if (1) lots of people call and I miss the flop, (2) if an A hits, (3) or the board coordinates multi-way.
Post - MP/LP:
- play "normally"...
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