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Phyl
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05-23-2005, 10:48 AM
Post subject: Interesting hand
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This was posted over at 2+2 earlier this morning. What do you think?
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4 , A.
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB raises, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (12 SB) K , 5, 2 (6 players)
SB bets, BB calls, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero 3-bets....
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Fnord
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I like it. The pot is so silly big, you might as well pop it and hope to clean up your 3 Ace outs.
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i believe there is an almost exact same example in SSH in the quiz section.
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Phyl
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
i believe there is an almost exact same example in SSH in the quiz section. |
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Phyl
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Whoops...
Oh well, I read the example in the book there's a good explanation of the hand.
Guess this thread is fairly pointless. 
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elipsesjeff
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Even though SSH would say so, I'm cold calling and not capping here. The pot isnt that big and with the MPs out of there I'd much rather call. Unless you are able to get your free card on the turn but if you are capped you are increasing your variance.
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Element187
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you also have a backdoor flush to the nuts, your buying more outs if a club hits on the turn.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
The pot isnt that big
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12sb not big? It's big, but not crazy out of control.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Unless you are able to get your free card on the turn but if you are capped you are increasing your variance.
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You're paying .5-1BB (minus equity and you have a fair amount here) to try for a free card and hopefully get a hand like AJo to fold for 3 more outs. Well worth it.
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Phyl
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Even though SSH would say so, I'm cold calling and not capping here. The pot isnt that big and with the MPs out of there I'd much rather call. Unless you are able to get your free card on the turn but if you are capped you are increasing your variance. |
Paying a SB for the possibility of 3 more outs or a free card in a 16SB pot is a good price in my opinion.
I think either you'll get a free card or SB will fold a dominating Ace more than often enough for this to be +EV.
It looks fairly standard now but when I first saw it I was thinking 'WTF?'.
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