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drmcboy
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01-07-2009, 06:53 PM
Post subject: Interesting AA hand
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DrButtInski
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both unknowns, have been at the table about 10 uneventful minutes.
Thoughts on all streets?
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($166.55)
Button ($85)
SB ($204.55)
BB ($106.10)
Hero (UTG) ($223.60)
MP ($203.60)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , 4 , A, 4
Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, SB calls $5, BB calls $4
Flop: ($18) J, Q , A (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($18) 7 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10, 1 fold
River: ($38) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $28, Hero
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TLR
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Why not bet on the flop ? As played I have no idea if you are ahead or behind here, guess I would call and be disgusted to see T9
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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my thinking was the str8 will usually look to CR the flop and it's hard to get called by worse. After I check may two pair gets stubborn or I can get some bluffs.
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TLR
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by drmcboy
my thinking was the str8 will usually look to CR the flop and it's hard to get called by worse. After I check may two pair gets stubborn or I can get some bluffs.
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Str8 may check the flop with an intention to CR, but once it was checked around why would he check-call turn ?
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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you asked why I did not bet the flop. I bet the turn so I am not sure what your comment means unless it is in regard to the river. FWIW I called.
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TLR
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Originally Posted by drmcboy
you asked why I did not bet the flop. I bet the turn so I am not sure what your comment means unless it is in regard to the river. FWIW I called.
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yep, thats what I meant
BTW I would bet the flop anyhow, K, T pretty much kill your hand, o you have a better chance of extracting value on the flop if you are ahead and getting calls from worse sets or even top two pair
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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do you give it up if raised? I would bet the flop with nothing but I hated to get raised off this hand. We either have to make a weak call on the flop then give up the turn or 3 bet and pretty much are always in against the str8 if called. Plus if we bet call the flop and the board pairs the straight can give up.
I don't think I get two bets in against top two or a worse set if I bet the flop, but I might get two in on turn and river bricks (again plus bluffs(. Question is whether that value is worth risking a free card for something like QT I guess.
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Hmmmm I'd auto-fire the flop, bet/call flop obv. won't be able to fold a club turn.
I think there are a lot of hands that will peel the flop that won't peel the turn.
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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good stuff thx guys
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TLR
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Originally Posted by drmcboy
do you give it up if raised? I would bet the flop with nothing but I hated to get raised off this hand. We either have to make a weak call on the flop then give up the turn or 3 bet and pretty much are always in against the str8 if called. Plus if we bet call the flop and the board pairs the straight can give up.
I don't think I get two bets in against top two or a worse set if I bet the flop, but I might get two in on turn and river bricks (again plus bluffs(. Question is whether that value is worth risking a free card for something like QT I guess.
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I would bet call the flop, if villian pots the turn without improvement it is a tough choice but I think you have to fold in this case
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