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Jay67s
Old 06-15-2005, 05:40 PM     Post subject: Interested in the Turn/River play here... #1 (permalink)  
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I know I should have raised from the SB with this hand, sometimes I like to just call from the blinds with it.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) A, 7, J (6 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+2 raises, MP1 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (12 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

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3 bet the flop Then lead out the turn ???

with what i did pre-flop and flop do you lay this down on turn or river?
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:08 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I definately raise preflop everytime...I then 3-bet the flop everytime. That would completely change the hand for the turn/river play. I don't think I fold though.
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:30 PM     Post subject: Re: Interested in the Turn/River play here... #3 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay67s
Thoughts:
3 bet the flop Then lead out the turn ???
yeah, you ought to be ahead on the flop here pretty often. aces up looks pretty good. I like the 3bet on the flop lead the turn.

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with what i did pre-flop and flop do you lay this down on turn or river?
5 : 1 odds on the turn might be a little thin given the aggression, there is some concern the BB will three bet behind your call. Aces up top kicker looks awesome heads up, but you don't close the action so that's kinda shakey. i think a flop three bet would have given you a bigger hint about where you stand.

on the river, 13:1 you have to call. there's allways an 8% chance of a bluff heads up.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:07 PM #4 (permalink)  
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It's close but I'd call down on the turn, I see a lot of players go stupid aggressive when the board pairs.

Like you said you should have 3-bet the flop and lead the turn.

I know you already said preflop was a mistake but let me make sure you know that not raising AK preflop is a huge huge mistake. AK is such a significant favourite not raising it is throwing money out the window.
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