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Old 12-26-2004, 01:45 PM     Post subject: im not hallucinating am I? #1 (permalink)  
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Was the flop play here a mistake?

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ANTES/BLINDS
Lil_Petey posts blind ($0.25), DJM18 posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
xbruticusx bets $1, DeweyFree folds, theemilkman folds, Tiltus calls $1, kampaisan folds, Jimmy19562 folds, trollet folds, Lil_Petey folds, DJM18 calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards KD,JS,JH ]
DJM18 checks, xbruticusx bets $0.50, Tiltus bets $1, DJM18 folds, xbruticusx calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards KD,JS,JH,QC ]
xbruticusx checks, Tiltus bets $1, xbruticusx folds.

SHOWDOWN
Tiltus wins $6

This was the first and only hand Tiltus had played at this table, as he left right after this. So no reads on him.
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Old 12-26-2004, 02:43 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 clearly a mistake to bet your gutshot on the flop with only 6.5 bets in the pot and not enough opponents to even get implied odds.

however, having called the raise, you were getting 6:1 on the turn, and you had at least 7 outs (4 T's + 3 Q's), which is a 6:1 proposition. plus, the guy MAY have a K not a J, so the 3 remaining A's are also partial outs. i think i'd be seeing the river in this case.

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Old 12-26-2004, 09:21 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I would have played it the same. Bet the flop because he might fold.

Interesting math on the turn.
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 WHOOPS. there are only 2 Q's left, not three. so it is a marginal call, given the implied odds.
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I would have played it the same. Bet the flop because he might fold.

Interesting math on the turn.
I agree, calling down here isn't the best play. He raised you on the flop with either a K or a J, both of which can beat you. The Queen didn't help you at all, if anything it helped him. Good fold, better luck next time.


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Old 12-27-2004, 03:26 AM #6 (permalink)  
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would have probably done the same as you. Good fold, I know lots of people would call and even raise with that.
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