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Old 05-25-2005, 03:46 AM     Post subject: If this is normal, I'm gonna really like Empire... #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, T. Hero posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero (poster) checks, Button calls, SB :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ completes, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero folds, Button calls, SB :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2, 5, Q (4 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, BB bets, UTG folds, Button raises, ScoobyDoo221 calls, BB 3-bets, Button calls, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 5 (3 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, BB bets, Button calls, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

River: (12 BB) 6 (3 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, BB checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results in white below:
ScoobyDoo221 has As 8d (one pair, fives).
BB has Kh Kd (two pair, kings and fives).
Button has Qh Td (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: BB wins 12 BB.

A8 os calling down there - I'm thinking huh?

Hand 2

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3, 9.
5 folds, Button :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) J, Q, 2 (3 players)
SB bets, BB folds, ScoobyDoo221 raises, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, ScoobyDoo221 bets, SB calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, ScoobyDoo221 bets, SB calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has Qc 9h (two pair, queens and threes).
ScoobyDoo221 has Kh Jc (two pair, jacks and threes).
Outcome: SB wins 7.50 BB.

Scooby sure likes to play huh?

Hand 3

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6, 6. CO posts a blind of $3.
2 folds, Hero calls, 1 fold, MP3 :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) Q, J, 6 (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, ScoobyDoo221 calls, CO folds, SB folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, ScoobyDoo221 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 3 (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, ScoobyDoo221 folds, BB calls.

River: (12.50 BB) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Ks Qs (one pair, queens).
Hero has 6h 6c (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 14.50 BB.

Hand 4

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4, J.
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3, T, 8 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, ScoobyDoo221 bets, SB folds, BB folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 2.50 BB

Results in white below:
No showdown. ScoobyDoo221 wins 2.50 BB.

Scooby is still going strong.

Hand 5 - make a guess who calls?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 4.
1 fold, UTG+1 :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.33 SB) 7, T, K (3 players)
Hero checks, ScoobyDoo221 checks, MP3 bets, Hero folds, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

Turn: (2.66 BB) K (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, MP3 checks.

River: (2.66 BB) T (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, MP3 bets, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

Final Pot: 4.66 BB

Results in white below:
ScoobyDoo221 has Jh 8h (two pair, kings and tens).
MP3 has Th Ah (full house, tens full of kings).
Outcome: MP3 wins 4.66 BB.

Hand 6 - anyone detecting a pattern?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 7. CO posts a blind of $3.
UTG :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) A, 4, Q (4 players)
BB checks, ScoobyDoo221 checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, BB folds, ScoobyDoo221 calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (3.16 BB) A (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, CO checks.

River: (3.16 BB) A (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 3.16 BB

Results in white below:
ScoobyDoo221 has Js 2h (three of a kind, aces).
CO has Th 4s (full house, aces full of fours).
Outcome: CO wins 3.16 BB.

Hand 7

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, Q.
5 folds, MP3 raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T, 9, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, ScoobyDoo221 bets, MP3 raises, SB calls, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

Turn: (6 BB) K (3 players)
SB checks, ScoobyDoo221 bets, MP3 calls, SB folds.

River: (8 BB) Q (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 8 BB

Results in white below:
ScoobyDoo221 has Kh 9c (two pair, kings and nines).
MP3 has As 7s (high card, ace).
Outcome: ScoobyDoo221 wins 8 BB.

Hand 8

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T, A.
UTG calls, 5 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) A, 8, 6 (5 players)
ScoobyDoo221 bets, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero raises, Button calls, ScoobyDoo221 calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9 BB) T (4 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Button calls, ScoobyDoo221 calls, UTG calls.

River: (13 BB) 4 (4 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, Button calls, ScoobyDoo221 calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 16 BB

Results in white below:
ScoobyDoo221 has 6d 5d (one pair, sixes).
Hero has Td As (two pair, aces and tens).
Button has Ah 7d (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 16 BB.

Scooby Dooby Doo, I love you.

Hand 9

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, 6.
5 folds, Hero calls, CO raises, Button :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 1 fold, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 8, 7, Q (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, ScoobyDoo221 calls, BB folds, Hero folds.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 4 (2 players)
CO bets, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 3 (2 players)
CO bets, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

Results in white below:
CO has Jh Th (high card, queen).
ScoobyDoo221 has Jc 3c (one pair, threes).
Outcome: ScoobyDoo221 wins 9.16 BB.

Hand 10

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8, J.
UTG raises, 2 folds, MP1 3-bets, 2 folds, CO :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG caps, MP1 calls, CO :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, SB calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 9, 5, A (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, MP1 raises, ScoobyDoo221 calls, SB calls, UTG 3-bets, MP1 calls, ScoobyDoo221 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 3 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, MP1 calls, ScoobyDoo221 folds, SB calls.

River: (17.50 BB) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 8s Js (flush, jack high).
UTG has Kd Ah (two pair, aces and nines).
MP1 has Qh Qs (two pair, queens and nines).
Outcome: SB wins 17.50 BB.

Hand 11

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7, 8.
5 folds, MP3 :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K, 7, 2 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, ScoobyDoo221 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, ScoobyDoo221 folds, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (4 BB) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 4 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 5s Ac (flush, king high).
BB has 4h 7c (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: SB wins 4 BB.

Hand 12

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A, J.
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 8, 3, 5 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, ScoobyDoo221 bets, CO raises, BB folds, Hero folds, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 5 (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, CO bets, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

River: (8.16 BB) A (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Results in white below:
ScoobyDoo221 has 8d 7h (two pair, eights and fives).
CO has 6s 6d (two pair, sixes and fives).
Outcome: ScoobyDoo221 wins 8.16 BB.

Scooby sorta mucks everything up - should I have limped preflop? Should I have bet that flop?

Hand 13

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9, K.
3 folds, MP1 :#A500AF(ScoobyDoo221)/ calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 9, T, 5 (4 players)
BB bets, ScoobyDoo221 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, BB folds, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 6 (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, MP3 bets, ScoobyDoo221 calls.

River: (6.66 BB) Q (2 players)
ScoobyDoo221 checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 6.66 BB

Results in white below:
ScoobyDoo221 has Td 4h (one pair, tens).
MP3 has 4c 5c (one pair, fives).
Outcome: ScoobyDoo221 wins 6.66 BB.

And that was it for me. Why did I leave? Only cuz the wife is calling me to bed. Goldmine is waiting for anyone who wants to play right now on Party/Empire 3/6.
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Old 05-25-2005, 04:22 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Empire is good, but party is much much better.


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Old 05-25-2005, 04:30 AM #3 (permalink)  
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if i wasn't mistakin the Empire Poker ring games ARE the Party Ring tables...
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if i wasn't mistakin the Empire Poker ring games ARE the Party Ring tables...
No, you are mistaken. The party ring tables are teh same as Poker Now's. Whereas Empire and Eurobet share the same tables. Duh.


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I could show you worse. BTW, 2/4 is a MUCH softer game and the rake actually comes out to about the same as you'll fall short of the $20 minimum more often. Given the sophistication level of your posts, you probably would win more money there. A fair amount of 3/6 players are multi-tabling the heck out of it, so game/seat selection and player adjustments are MUCH more important. If 2/4 isn't high enough stakes for your blood, then consider a weaker site like Pacific poker where the 3/6 and 5/10 games are very fishy and single-tabler friendly.
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I've played 5/10 6 max with that guy. He's pretty much a moron. They're not all like that...
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Given the sophistication level of your posts, you probably would win more money there. A fair amount of 3/6 players are multi-tabling the heck out of it, so game/seat selection and player adjustments are MUCH more important. If 2/4 isn't high enough stakes for your blood, then consider a weaker site like Pacific Poker where the 3/6 and 5/10 games are very fishy and single-tabler friendly.
Dogging my sophisticosity huh?

I too am a mutli-tabler - just not a huge one. I'm used to my two tables at 3/6 5 player max at paradise. Just trying to get a feel to the tables at Empire and trying to remember how to play 10 player games again (god I hate having to fold so much). I still have many hurdles to overcome - game/seat selection being one of them. For now - I will play my game - post my questions - and keep living the dream.
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Holy hell, must have taken you ages to correct the colour error on all of those hands.
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Holy hell, must have taken you ages to correct the colour error on all of those hands.
I did it. Copy to notepad, search/replace, paste back into the post.

...and I thought Phyl was such a bright guy...
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Help the newbie out boys. What error did I make, and what do I need to do to not do it in the future?

Also will you look specifically at hands 8,9, and 12 and tell me how you woulda played them?

I'm thinking hand 9, I shoulda raised pre-flop and bet out on the flop... but is this just me seeing that I wouldv'e won a good size pot if I had done that?

Hand 12, how good is AJ in a ten person game?
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Holy hell, must have taken you ages to correct the colour error on all of those hands.
I did it. Copy to notepad, search/replace, paste back into the post.
Shit! That's such a handy tool, I didn't even know it existed.

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That's it punk, heads-up $300/$600. You game?
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That's it punk, heads-up $300/$600. You game?
My bankroll can't afford to play those stakes with only a small edge over you
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Help the newbie out boys. What error did I make, and what do I need to do to not do it in the future?

Also will you look specifically at hands 8,9, and 12 and tell me how you woulda played them?
Hand 8 I play the same.

Hand 9 I don't like the preflop limp. This is basically a raise or fold situation with call being the worst option in my opinion. I'd raise. Given the preflop action, post-flop looks good.

Try not to open-limp in middle position or later.

Hand 12 I would bet the flop you probably still have the best hand. Given that you checked I like a fold.

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You'll get yours in hell Fnord.
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Ok I now know the error - all those color = red stuff... What do I need to do to make it purty like Fnord did for me in the future?
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Ok I now know the error - all those color = red stuff... What do I need to do to make it purty like Fnord did for me in the future?
Read the announcement.
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What a pain in the ass for a stupid =.
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i fold all of these hands preflop except the 66.
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i fold all of these hands preflop except the 66.
Really? Hand 8 - one limper in front of you, you're CO and you fold when u know scooby's coming along for the ride?

Hand 9 yeah I shoulda raised or folded.

Hand 12 - is AJ that bad early position in a 10 handed game? It's a consistent raise hand for me preflop in 5 handed games.
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Hand 12 - is AJ that bad early position in a 10 handed game? It's a consistent raise hand for me preflop in 5 handed games.
your trying to raise through 9 other players, your cards have to be really strong. AJ is too easily dominated.
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I'm trying to raise through 7 others. If you WERE to play this, is a limp or raise better?
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in early position if i was going to play, i would raise with AJs i would toss AJo


in later position, i would raise AJo but play cautiously post flop.
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