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Old 04-26-2006, 01:54 AM     Post subject: I played this like a prat, just assure me i did. #1 (permalink)  
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 This is the most awful way i have played since i first began to play lhe.
So many errors imo
1. i cold called a raise with 22. Dumb. The table texture wasnt that bad though so i could expect a family pot but meh gross.
2. Ok my flop line isnt bad. Im hoping to be raised hence the bet. Im scared here this might get checked round too, not a pretty flop
3. C/r line best here? When the 4 flush doesnt hit i guess we're going to the river but so long as no one flopped a flush on me im probably good here?. I knew who had the ace after he called two bets cold. I hate this turn play but is it right?
4. All sorts of dumbness on the river.

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- Miffed sitting in seat 1 with $437.50
- Lucky-13 sitting in seat 3 with $319.67 [Sitting out]
- Bakmaskin sitting in seat 4 with $203.00
- zzzzz61 sitting in seat 5 with $64.15
- Kwaje sitting in seat 6 with $163.00 [Dealer]

Miffed posted the small blind - $1.50
Bakmaskin posted the big blind - $3.00
** Dealing card to Miffed: 2 of Diamonds, 2 of Hearts
zzzzz61 called - $3.00
Kwaje raised - $6.00
Miffed called - $6.00
Bakmaskin called - $6.00
zzzzz61 called - $6.00

** Dealing the flop: 10 of Clubs, 6 of Clubs, 2 of Clubs
Miffed bet - $3.00
Bakmaskin called - $3.00
zzzzz61 called - $3.00
Kwaje called - $3.00

** Dealing the turn: 8 of Spades
Miffed checked
Bakmaskin checked
zzzzz61 bet - $6.00
Kwaje called - $6.00
Miffed raised - $12.00
Bakmaskin called - $12.00
zzzzz61 called - $12.00
Kwaje called - $12.00

** Dealing the river: 3 of Clubs
Miffed checked
Bakmaskin bet - $6.00
zzzzz61 called - $6.00
Kwaje called - $6.00
Miffed called - $6.00
Bakmaskin shows: Ace of Clubs, 3 of Hearts
zzzzz61 mucks: King of Hearts, 8 of Clubs
Kwaje mucks: Queen of Spades, King of Clubs
Miffed mucks: 2 of Diamonds, 2 of Hearts
Bakmaskin wins $106.00 from the main pot
(btw this was the only pot above 4bbs i lost in a 3hr session)
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Standard.
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:50 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Standard.
Uh, no. That's a terrible river call.
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Old 04-26-2006, 03:52 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Calling one person sucks, overcalling is bad; over, overcaling is just plain wrong.
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Old 04-26-2006, 04:34 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Calling HU good, overcalling 3-way good/bad depending on reads. Over-overcalling bad.

Don't overestimate the chances of a flush with 4 on board. The chances are high, sure, but often not high enough for you to fold a big pot.
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:03 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Calling HU good, overcalling 3-way good/bad depending on reads. Over-overcalling bad.

Don't overestimate the chances of a flush with 4 on board. The chances are high, sure, but often not high enough for you to fold a big pot.
yes i know this was a horrible river call.

At least the ace made a mistake on calling the turn i think
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:38 PM     Post subject: Re: I played this like a prat, just assure me i did. #7 (permalink)  
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Too bad that river wasn't the 8.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:11 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Too bad that river wasn't the 8.
no that hand happened 20 mins later
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:31 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Calling HU good, overcalling 3-way good/bad depending on reads. Over-overcalling bad.

Don't overestimate the chances of a flush with 4 on board. The chances are high, sure, but often not high enough for you to fold a big pot.
By just cards alone, there's a 23% chance that not one of the three opponents has a club. However, given the turn and river action, I'd put the odds at less than 1%. In particular, I can't imagine Bakmaskin calling the turn check/raise without a club or a bigger set, and when he leads the river, odds are pretty strong that Hero is dead.

If Hero wants to put a bet in on the river, he is better off bet/folding since some small clubs might fold and any club but the A or K will probably just call rather than raise.
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:53 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Calling HU good, overcalling 3-way good/bad depending on reads. Over-overcalling bad.

Don't overestimate the chances of a flush with 4 on board. The chances are high, sure, but often not high enough for you to fold a big pot.
By just cards alone, there's a 23% chance that not one of the three opponents has a club. However, given the turn and river action, I'd put the odds at less than 1%. In particular, I can't imagine Bakmaskin calling the turn check/raise without a club or a bigger set, and when he leads the river, odds are pretty strong that Hero is dead.

If Hero wants to put a bet in on the river, he is better off bet/folding since some small clubs might fold and any club but the A or K will probably just call rather than raise.
hero only called because he was so pissed that the player who obviously had the ace of clubs cold called two bets for bad pot odds and zero implied odds with nothing and was a fairly strong player.
I could have put the cards in thses guys hands pretty much.
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Old 04-26-2006, 11:50 PM #11 (permalink)  
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hero only called because he was so pissed that the player who obviously had the ace of clubs cold called two bets for bad pot odds and zero implied odds with nothing and was a fairly strong player.
Go figure?

Final pot is 18 BB with zero raises on the river,, 2 BB to call the turn and your saying he should fold getting 9-1? Give me a break. You lose a set like this every day, this one is no different.


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Old 04-27-2006, 01:34 AM #12 (permalink)  
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hero only called because he was so pissed that the player who obviously had the ace of clubs cold called two bets for bad pot odds and zero implied odds with nothing and was a fairly strong player.
Go figure?

Final pot is 18 BB with zero raises on the river,, 2 BB to call the turn and your saying he should fold getting 9-1? Give me a break. You lose a set like this every day, this one is no different.
lol

i obviously didnt add up the pot right, i thought he was shorter than that. Yeah at 9:1 im getting called.
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:50 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Even just at the time he called, there were 10 big bets in the pot, and two players were priced in to call a one bet raise behind him. So he was getting 6:1 odds even if everyone folded the river to him after a hit (which of course isn't that likely). Seems like a decent call.
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