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pokerfanatic
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03-17-2006, 10:00 PM
Post subject: i play this right?
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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: pkrfanatic is BB with Q , Q .
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB raises, pkrfanatic 3-bets, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB caps, pkrfanatic calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls.
Flop: (24 SB) 6, Q , J (6 players)
SB bets, pkrfanatic raises, UTG 3-bets, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, pkrfanatic caps, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.
Turn: (24 BB) 5 (6 players)
SB checks, pkrfanatic bets, UTG calls, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls.
River: (29 BB) 9 (5 players)
SB checks, pkrfanatic bets, UTG folds, MP raises, Button calls, SB calls, pkrfanatic 3-bets, MP caps, Button calls $10.59 (All-In), SB calls, pkrfanatic calls.
Final Pot: 44.76 BB
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midas06
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Yeah, that's pretty much perfect. V nice pot sir.
I love how the SB keeps calling with A high, obv it's good
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pokerfanatic
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Originally Posted by midas06
Yeah, that's pretty much perfect. V nice pot sir.
I love how the SB keeps calling with A high, obv it's good
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read that result there bud
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"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
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MF, before I read the results I was goign to post that I would've pussied out of 3 betting the river to an obvious drawer, then thought you won so I didn't want to look stupid.
I put MP on hearts for what it's worth, didn't see that one coming.
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i removed the results they were fucked up...
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euphoricism
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I dont see much reason to threebet that river.
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how about 3bet/fold that river? hahaha no f'in way i can fold that.
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I dont see much reason to threebet that river.
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pot is large and if he is acting stupid and raise 2 pair it brings me more money... the first rule when playing a monster pot is to do anything in your power to win that pot...
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
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euphoricism
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
I dont see much reason to threebet that river.
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pot is large and if he is acting stupid and raise 2 pair it brings me more money... the first rule when playing a monster pot is to do anything in your power to win that pot... |
I dont see any way that the river threebet increases your chances of winning that pot.
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euphoricism
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Meh I guess its alright. I can see your point about two pair -- but when someone who cold calls all the way down and then out of no where raises the river... thats the nuts man..
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
Meh I guess its alright. I can see your point about two pair -- but when someone who cold calls all the way down and then out of no where raises the river... thats the nuts man..
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what am i spoze to do what is another 2bb to a 42bb pot? not much man... fucker got lucky nothing i can do...
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“Dream as if you’ll live forever. Live as if you’ll die today.” ~ James Dean ~
"Poker is a lot like sex, peoples perceived ability usually blinds the truth" ~ me ~
"God bless him. Got to bet big to win big! GAMB00L!!!" ~ Fnord
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euphoricism
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results oriented FTW!
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
results oriented FTW!
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very wrong, if you thought you MIGHT have the best hand 1 time in 20 you make the raise profitably...
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Top set, mash bet/raise button until it disappears. Everytime.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Top set, mash bet/raise button until it disappears. Everytime.
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This seems like very bad advice without looking at the board and who is raising you...
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03-18-2006, 07:28 PM
Post subject: Re: i play this right?
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
6 , Q , J 5 9
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MP calls / MP calls / MP raises |
Smells like KT, looks like KT... I just call the river.
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03-19-2006, 09:13 PM
Post subject: Re: i play this right?
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
6 , Q , J 5 9
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MP calls / MP calls / MP raises |
Smells like KT, looks like KT... I just call the river. |
He has KT here more than half the time. regardless, you have 4 players calling at the river. Keep raising. If it were HU, you could maybe call the river raise.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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He has KT here more than half the time. regardless, you have 4 players calling at the river. Keep raising.
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I agree with the 1st half of this. I'm not sure I understand the 2nd half. You're raising b/c you are beat more than 50% of the time, but you're only putting in about 25% of the money? Doesn't this just increase your variance (lose/win the max)? BTW what do you think MP has the other times? 99? 7h 8h ?
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yes, since you are winning 50% of the time, and putting in 25% of the money, the raise is for value.
2 pair and a smaller set are both possibilities for alternative hands.
The raise increases variance, but it increases your winrate also. If you are properly bankrolled, your only concern should be to increase your winnings. Variance is just a side effect.
In fact the 2 most useless stats to worry about are variance and BB/100. You should simply try to make the best decision at every opportunity. If you do that, you can only hope that these 2 stats fall in line. It is ridiculous to try to control them in a game based mainly on luck.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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