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ArcticKnight
Old 01-31-2006, 11:33 PM     Post subject: I fumbled, stumbled, rumbled....and got owned #1 (permalink)  
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I made quite a few bad plays last night, by this one summed it up...

felt like crawling away after this one......screwed up pre-flop through to the river.

I could see the grin on ops face...

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, 8.
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A, J, 7 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (6 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ac 8h (one pair, aces).
Button has 9h 8s (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Button wins 10 BB.
Gone golfing ..see ya in the Fall of 2006
PS. What did the snail on the turtle's back say?
Wheeeeeeeee........
 
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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did you think about donking the turn i see that raise on draws for FC all the time once you hit this level (from watching Jeff play)...

3 betting the flop or donking the turn, are both options against a possible FC play
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 Whats the problem? He raised for a free card and hit a miracle gutshot over his flush. I would have played it the same as A8 is shitty hand.


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Old 02-01-2006, 12:34 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Whats the problem? He raised for a free card and hit a miracle gutshot over his flush. I would have played it the same as A8 is shitty hand.
He-He I was thinking that but I was also wondering if he considered the guy raising for the FC...
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Old 02-01-2006, 12:57 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Whats the problem? He raised for a free card and hit a miracle gutshot over his flush. I would have played it the same as A8 is shitty hand.
He-He I was thinking that but I was also wondering if he considered the guy raising for the FC...
Actually, after he raised I never saw it as a freecard play. I thought, with the SB and BB still able to call, that he wouldn't play a draw that way. Why pay extra to take a draw HU when you are getting the right price multi way.

I thought he might have had KJ, QJs , 1oJs, etc and wanted to see where he was, and cut off the rest of the field. But, I just came off a A1O loss to AJ on a flop with and Ace, so I was also thinking .......not again with a bigger Ace.

Anyway, it was a short-handed table that filled in a little, so it's not a great play 2 off the button with A8os anyway.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:22 AM #6 (permalink)  
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When I saw the raise on the flop and check behind on the turn I thought it was for the free card.

So I liked your river bet. I don't think you played this badly at all.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:04 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I play this exactly the same including the pf raise and the river bet/call.

The only difference is I will donk bet the turn about 1/3 of the time, depending on my opponent.
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