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gutshot
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08-03-2005, 11:55 PM
Post subject: i feel stuck in this pretty large pot
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Full House
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No reads on mp2, the cap from UTG+1 means he has 2 cards.
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Preflop: Hero is SB with K , A .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 caps, MP2 calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (13 SB) Q , 8 , 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: (9.50 BB) J (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, MP2 calls, Hero calls.
River: (15.50 BB) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks.
Final Pot: 15.50 BB
at least i got a free showdown =\
Can I forgo the flop bet and just fold when its two back to me?
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-jay
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Fnord
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Well played, pot is too big to play fit or fold on the frop.
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TylerK
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I don't really see a point in this hand where folding wouldn't be terrible.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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rubixstreub
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Well played, pot is too big to play fit or fold on the frop.
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Fit or fold, what's the fit part mean? Would checking this flop be better, seeing how someone is certainly going to bet, and if comes two bets to you do you let it go?
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gutshot
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Originally Posted by Rubix13
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Well played, pot is too big to play fit or fold on the frop.
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Fit or fold, what's the fit part mean? Would checking this flop be better, seeing how someone is certainly going to bet, and if comes two bets to you do you let it go?
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I represented a big hand preflop. The pot is huge on the flop. Folding for one bet is bad. I don't want to call two cold, so I lead out. I don't have a made hand (fit) but there are a ton of cards that could fall on the turn that make my holding look alot better.
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-jay
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by gutshot
I don't want to call two cold, so I lead out.
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Eh...I think you should revisit this reasoning for leading out.
DO YOU SEE WHY Y/N
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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gutshot
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Full House
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Y.
That wasn't the sole reason for leading out and was probably way down on the list. It just got stuck in that sentence in my ramble. Reasons for leading out a) huge pot b) clean up some outs/fold weak hands c) i have a pretty strong draw d)i dont want to call two cold 
IS THIS GOOT REASONING Y/N?
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-jay
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by TylerK
I don't really see a point in this hand where folding wouldn't be terrible.
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If he folds the turn it had better be a misclick!
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by TylerK
I don't really see a point in this hand where folding wouldn't be terrible.
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If he folds the turn it had better be a misclick!
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That's what I'm saying, confusing double negatives aside.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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