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Old 02-17-2006, 04:14 AM     Post subject: I feel I played this one poorly #1 (permalink)  
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No reads on the opps. Looking back on it, I feel as if I lost most if I was behind or I won the least while i was ahead. Thoughts on each street?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A.
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) J, K, 7 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, Button bets, Hero raises, BB folds, MP folds, Button calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

River: (8 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:00 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Can you come up with a better line?
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:24 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Short of just donking the flop I dont see a better line. If he has QT or a couple clubs tough luck.


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Old 02-17-2006, 06:40 AM #4 (permalink)  
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any thought of a raise pre-flop and lead out with a bet....
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any thought of a raise pre-flop and lead out with a bet....
Really on table image and players. If I could fold the BB then probably. Even then I think the hand plays out awfully similar either way.


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I am raising AJs here close to 100% of the time, and AJo almost never. 4 way pot, no one is folding, reverse implied odds.
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I hate raising offsuit broadways from the small blinds against limpers. Really I hate playing hands out of position period
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In one of the videos I have KQs on the SB against a MP PFR. I hated it. 2/5 blind structure I was putting in $8 preflop to call, and the pot was like $17. (his raise to $10, BB $5, my $2). So I'm thinkin ive got 2:1 preflop out of position against a PFR with KQs. Thats almost entirely -EV, isnt it? I'm pretty sure the BB folded, but I was considering 3betting to fold him out. But then I'm putting in $18 into a $16 pot, OOP?

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And I donk this flop. No PFR, i probably AM behind, but I'd like to know. Hand is going to play differently from there
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:59 AM #10 (permalink)  
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any thought of a raise pre-flop and lead out with a bet....
Really on table image and players. If I could fold the BB then probably. Even then I think the hand plays out awfully similar either way.
What I was thinking is that an MP limp looks like a low pair, weak suited Ace, or 89s etc depending on the player, and a button limp is so typical with lots of small suited and/or semi-connected holdings with one player already on board.

At 10/20 I see lots of raises here, followed by a bet/fold/fold that I just thought it might be an alternative. I agree its table dependent, and knowing the BB is key.
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