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elipsesjeff

09-23-2004, 05:14 AM Post subject: I could have been here all night.....

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I found gold at a poker stars table tonight, too bad it had to end.

This was the first hand I saw, but wasnt dealt and I decided to stick around for awhile.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T

, 5

. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises, Hero (poster) folds, CO calls, Button 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 caps, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (25 SB) 2

, Q

, 7

(6 players)
SB bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 caps, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (22.50 BB) 4

(5 players)
SB bets, BB raises, UTG 3-bets, MP1 calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB caps, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB calls.

River: (38.50 BB) T

(4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB calls $0.25 (All-In).

Final Pot: 46 BB

So, I won a couple hands, was up 20 BB on the day, and then I'm dealt:

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 2

, 2

. MP1 posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 (poster) raises, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 2

, 8

, 5

(7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero caps, MP1 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (16 BB) 9

(4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (24 BB) 3

(4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 33 BB

When you play these super loose tables you get high varience right? but yet it seems like you can make a lot more than you lose if you stick to your good cards.

Do you guys like to play at these kinda tables where the pre-flop raising is a little higher than you would like but you know that they are just raising the pot with cards like A-8o?

I left after my trips lost to the 67, still ahead on the day, but not as much as i could have been.

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Humphrind

09-23-2004, 01:04 PM

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Great that your using the bisonbison converter. It's very helpful in looking at hands. On the side of the screen, with all the other options. There is a box that says, "Show results" click it so we can see what people have at the showdown.

As for the hands. Wow. I thought PS was tighter than that. I have been roaming around the limit tables. your limit, higher and lower, and I've never run into pots over 20BB consistently.

I'm sure Fnord and others would say to sit at that table and rake in the money. I prefer the tigher tables. I like solid play.

It's all a matter of prefrence.

I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.

elipsesjeff

09-23-2004, 04:56 PM

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Here is what hand one finished as:

*** SHOW DOWN ***
5 alarm: shows [Ad 5h] (a flush, Ace high)
Dadrocks: mucks hand
CUNVEGAS: mucks hand
5 alarm collected $0.75 from side pot
sirbustimust: mucks hand
5 alarm collected $21.25 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23 Main pot $21.25. Side pot $0.75. | Rake $1
Board [2d Qd 7d 4d Tc]
Seat 1: CUNVEGAS mucked [2s 2c] - three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 7: sirbustimust (small blind) mucked [6d Jd] - a flush, Queen high
Seat 8: 5 alarm (big blind) showed [Ad 5h] and won ($22) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: Dadrocks mucked [Js 3d] - a flush, Queen high

Here is the second hand:

*** SHOW DOWN ***
crossarm: shows [6c 7c] (a straight, Five to Nine)
pollypop: mucks hand
CodeRedRulez: mucks hand
crossarm collected $15.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.50 | Rake $0.75
Board [2c 8s 5h 9c 3d]
Seat 1: pollypop mucked [Qd Qh] - a pair of Queens
Seat 2: CodeRedRulez mucked [2h 2d] - three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 10: crossarm (big blind) showed [6c 7c] and won ($15.75) with a straight, Five to Nine

I think the preflop percentage listed when i joined was like 70% or some crazy number like that, i couldnt believe it.

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Fnord

09-23-2004, 07:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Humphrind

I prefer the tigher tables. I like solid play.

Leak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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stevedonel

09-24-2004, 07:58 PM

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These are the easiest tables to make money on. They call/raise/reraise with Ace hi! I love these games. Play your normal big hands, pocket pairs and add suited connectors/gappers. When you have a monster hand, it will not matter how many raises you put in, or how you play, they will always call and reraise. They dont observe your game, so they dont know or care that you have a monster.

BTW, where is this bison bison converter? I've been wondering how people do that for a while>

Is that guy still part of the forum??

AvatarKava

09-24-2004, 08:47 PM

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BTW, where is this bison bison converter? I've been wondering how people do that for a while>[/quote]

http://www.selachian.com/tools/bison...hconverter.cgi

Xianti

09-25-2004, 05:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveDonel

BTW, where is this bison bison converter? I've been wondering how people do that for a while>

In addition to the link, Fnord has some usage tips in his forum guidelines here:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=2566

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