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Yeldud
Old 02-12-2005, 04:49 PM     Post subject: Was I chasing too much? #1 (permalink)  
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Question for the limit guru's

Game No : 1579399050
***** Hand History for Game 1579399050 *****
$0.5/$1 Hold'em - Saturday, February 12, 11:02:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 31039 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Andyb110 ( $37.25 )
Seat 2: kelzilla ( $8 )
Seat 3: Frostillicus ( $30.75 )
Seat 4: PLK67 ( $12.75 )
Seat 5: louisdogg33 ( $35.25 )
Seat 6: ME ( $21.75 )
Seat 7: Run26_2 ( $24.5 )
Seat 8: buysell78 ( $24 )
Seat 9: kart06 ( $23.75 )
Seat 10: navid2k1 ( $41.38 )
Run26_2 posts small blind [$0.25].
buysell78 posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ME [ 8d 7s ]
kart06 folds.
navid2k1 raises [$1].
Andyb110 calls [$1].
kelzilla folds.
Frostillicus folds.
PLK67 folds.
louisdogg33 calls [$1].
ME calls [$1].
Run26_2 calls [$0.75].
buysell78 calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 3h, 9s ]
Run26_2 checks.
buysell78 checks.
navid2k1 checks.
Andyb110 checks.
louisdogg33 bets [$0.5].
ME calls [$0.5].
Run26_2 raises [$1].
buysell78 folds.
navid2k1 folds.
Andyb110 folds.
louisdogg33 calls [$0.5].
ME calls [$0.5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
Run26_2 bets [$1].
louisdogg33 folds.
ME calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
Run26_2 bets [$1].
ME raises [$2].
Run26_2 calls [$1].
ME shows [ 8d, 7s ] a straight, seven to jack.
Run26_2 shows [ Td, Js ] two pairs, jacks and tens.
ME wins $14.25 from the main pot with a straight, seven to jack.

Did I chase too much in this hand or were the implied odds in my favor?

Reads - navid2k1 was a solid player
Run26_2 was a bit loose
louisdogg - no read
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Old 02-12-2005, 04:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I would fold preflop.
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Old 02-12-2005, 05:36 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Fold pre-flop, post-flop is standard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 02-12-2005, 09:50 PM #4 (permalink)  
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i would only consider playing 7,8 os in a pot with 6+ callers and im on sb (bb is obvious)

i would only continue playing it if flop came x,5,6 or x,6,9..... rainbow flops of course
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Old 02-12-2005, 10:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i would only continue playing it if flop came x,5,6 or x,6,9..... rainbow flops of course
Or 888, 777, 887, 778, etc.... I would imagine
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i would only continue playing it if flop came x,5,6 or x,6,9..... rainbow flops of course
Or 888, 777, 887, 778, etc.... I would imagine
well, obviously :P
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Old 02-13-2005, 11:19 AM     Post subject: Re: Was I chasing too much? #7 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Yeldud
Reads - navid2k1 was a solid player
Run26_2 was a bit loose
louisdogg - no read
This is a probable fold preflop, but if you're going to play it you need reads on Run and buysell preflop play.

With 2 coldcallers in front, I don't mind taking a peek at this hand if I was pretty sure one or both of those guys would limp along. 87 is nothing to sneeze at on the button when you've got 6 way action.

Postflop is fine; in fact this hand turned out Exactly the way you want an 87 to turn out. Run thinned out the field for you, you had the odds every time, and the river was a lock (the guy who raises that flop isn't holding JQ)

Again, don't get in the habit of coldcalling with this stuff unless it's a sweet spot like this one.
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:28 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I fail to see anything debatable here. Pre-flop is HORRIBLE. Post-flop it pretty much plays itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:55 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Thanks to all those that replied.

After reviewing my session, I put this hand into the boredom category. I had not played a hand in a while (what seemd like forever0 and when I saw connectors on the button, I figured finally a hand worth looking at the flop. After review, I should have folded pre-flop.

Fnord:
Are you indicating that connectors lose value in limit or

1)78 is too low of a connector to play?
2)There was not enough action in the pot?

I am curious, I have switched from NL, where this hand has huge implied odds/value.

Do connectors play different in Limit.
If you put all your faith in the river, you are up shit's creek
 
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Old 02-13-2005, 06:11 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 in limit holdem, the only unsuited connectors ever worth playing are AK, KQ, QJ, and maybe JT.

against a raise, the only unsuited connector worth playing is AK. seriously.

the reason connectors have value in NL is that you have enormous implied odds if you hit your hand. but in limit you are generally not going to get paid off enough to cover all the times you miss. you got lucky on this hand but if you keep playing 87o against a raise, or even without a raise, you are going to miss the flop most of the time and go broke fast.

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