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Old 05-04-2005, 11:45 AM     Post subject: I call #1 (permalink)  
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I'm playing a table with another FTR peep when this hand comes up.

Villian is a little loose and has already rasied 2 times previously this orbit.

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Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with J, J.
2 folds, Fnord raises, 3 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Fnord calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7, 8, K (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 2 (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 9 (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:48 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Stack sizes are important here.

SB has $17.5
MP1 has $25

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with J, J.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 4 folds, SB calls, Fnord 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 caps, SB calls, Fnord calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 7, J, 4 (4 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (10 BB) K (4 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls. (I expected a raise here.)

River: (13 BB) 3 (3 players)
SB calls $3.50 (All-In), Fnord raises, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 17.62 BB
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:54 PM #3 (permalink)  
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on the second hand, why the slow play on flop and turn? Seems like your letting the flush draws in cheap.
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Hand 1: I would be suprised if he has a King, but if he did it would probably be AK, or even KK given the 3-bet out of position, but being loose, who knows.

Hand 2: Given their stack size for a 2/4 game, I would have to say they are a) are on full speed tilt or b) just plain suck, in either case, i wouldn't worry too much about the flush, a raise on the flop isn't gonna make a flush draw go away anyways getting 9.5:1, and with trips, I would welcome overcalls. I probably raise the turn unless I thought UTG and MP1 would fold at that point. That being said, they could have anything here, but I would be shocked if you lost this hand.
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hand 1: villan with AK ?

hand 2: on the turn, no reraise ?? when people are short stacked in limit, i find they are not afraid to call off the rest of there stacks with just a pair.
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Old 05-04-2005, 03:17 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Stack sizes are important here.

SB has $17.5
MP1 has $25

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with J, J.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 4 folds, SB calls, Fnord 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 caps, SB calls, Fnord calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 7, J, 4 (4 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (10 BB) K (4 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls. (I expected a raise here.)

River: (13 BB) 3 (3 players)
SB calls $3.50 (All-In), Fnord raises, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 17.62 BB
just wonder why not a raise in turn ?
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:57 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Given the flop action I put him on AK, so I figured I'd let him pop the turn so I could 3-bet and hopefully get him to put in the rest of his stack.

In retrospect, I think I need to pop the turn in case he has AQo.
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:30 PM #8 (permalink)  
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may be you are right .
anyway , what is his hand?

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