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Old 08-27-2007, 02:29 PM     Post subject: HU vs. LAG #1 (permalink)  
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Villian in BB is 50/20 LAG. I raise a bit thin here from MP because the players behind me are pretty tight preflop and I want to try to isolate him. He never folds his BB to a raise (sound familiar?) and his three-betting range seems to be any Ace, any K, any pp, any two paint cards, and anything suited and connected. So the cap preflop is both for value and to keep the initiative.

Postflop he bluffs a lot, but after i caught some good hands and busted him two or three times he'd begun to respect my raises. So now he tends to just go into call down mode against me as long as thinks he has a chance of winning (a 'chance' to him includes spiking bottom pair on the river).

I figure to be ahead on the flop and turn but his calls concern me. He seems capable of a bluff on the river out of the blue but it's hard to see him calling the turn with both a worse hand than me and no draw. I'm tempted to bluff re-raise to try to get him to fold a 7 or pp but i figure he probably won't fold either so end up folding myself. Afterwards i thought i probably should have just called.

Q1) What's the best play on the river?

Q2) With a showdownable hand like A5s with reasonably good implied odds is it better to just call the preflop 3bet against this type of player and let him take the initiative postflop with the idea of usually just calling down all the way?


PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , .
1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) , , (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (7.25 BB) (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:54 PM #2 (permalink)  
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You are only slightly ahead of what you estimate his PF 3-betting range to be. I like the PF cap, but I stop betting at some point here. I think betting the turn was spewage.

I'm really torn between checking the flop through and planning to call the next 2 or betting the flop and checking the turn, since I really don't want to get checkraised on the flop. However based on your read that he's not trying to run you over anymore, I don't think he'd checkraise air on the flop, so I'm going with bet flop, check turn, call river.

As played I still call the river. If he paired a 6 on the flop he'd likely have come out betting it.

As for question 2, based on his range you basically have to show down every time, and the question is how do you get there cheap when you don't improve. Seems like on average you can get there for 1SB less if you cap it preflop.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:47 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'm not capping. I think you are a dog to his 3-bet BB defense range. Also, I think your implied odds suck with this hand. You are dominated by about 1/3 of his range. And if you do hit the ace, you are most likely dominated, or crushing his range and not going to get as much action.

But post flop, depending on his postflop aggression and SD%, you probably have enough equity against his range to often see a showdown.

As played preflop, I think you need to follow through with the flop bet most of the time. But I'm debating about a turn-check/river-autocall play to ensure I see a showdown (if he is just as Laggy post flop as his preflop stats). If he plays tighter post flop, I probably fire another barrel on the turn and give up on the river.

Also, as played, I'm probably looking him up on the river. A 6 is such a small percent of his range, that I'm not convinced he has a 6. If he picked up a flush draw on the turn, he could have very easily c/r or bet out with the FD and an overcard with his stats. So, I'm a little leary of the flush as well. Again, depending on his postflop agg and SD%, I'm often looking him up on the river.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:55 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I'm not capping. I think you are a dog to his 3-bet BB defense range.
Good point. I did the math and it seems pretty even:

His 3bet BB defense range (excluding A5) is a total of 414 hands.

I have about 60% equity against KQ- and QJ (144 hands)
about 56% equity against A4-, A4s, -KQs-, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s, 43s, and 32s (120 hands)
about 36% equity against A6+, A6s+ (96 hands)
about 33% equity against 55-KK (51 hands)
and 13 % equity against AA (3 hands)

so my total equity against his range is about ( .6*144 + .56 *120 + .36*96 + .33*51 + .13*3)/414

= .496

With position HU i generally add about 5-10% so i consider myself 'ahead' here.

As far as implied odds, i was mainly thinking about the flush and wheel draws, though my read on him was that he was likely going to pay off a flop and turn bet if an Ace flopped and he didn't have one, unless it looked completely hopeless for him. Against most BB who 3bet though naturally i'd be too busy cringing to even consider fourbetting a weak Ace like this.

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Also, as played, I'm probably looking him up on the river.
I think you're right. I'm getting what 7:1 on a call? Bah!
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