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Old 10-03-2008, 12:01 AM     Post subject: HU 2-7 limit spots #1 (permalink)  
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 BB is tight, been folding to a lot of opens, and I've been opening a lot

Dealt to hero [5 2 XXX]
Hero raises, BB calls

First draw
BB draws 2
Hero draws [A 6 Q]

BB checks, Hero checks

2nd draw
BB draws 1
Hero draws [7 T] [T 7 6 5 2]
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

3rd draw
BB takes 1
Hero?

Same opponent, but this is more just situation dependent:

Hero is OTB
Dealt to hero [T 6 4 3 2]
Hero raises, BB calls
BB draws 2

What are we discarding?
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:06 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 1) I'd consider discarding the T because it sounds like he would almost never bet the river as a bluff and we'd fold to a bet if he donks the river anyway.

2) The T
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:08 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Stand pat, you should be able to determine this for yourself using the TwoDimes calculator. Give him a random one-card draw and compare your equity standing pat vs. dumping the T.

Hand 2: Dump the T.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:19 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 was totally unaware that 2-dimes had a 2-7 calc.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:21 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I think hand 1 I stand pat. I think its cheaper in the long run. If you hit an 8 or 9 you may be tempted to call a bet because you improved, even though its not really much better than a 10 in this instance. So really you're drawing to probably like 6 or 7 outs to really improve, and a pat J or better is better than 50% to win vs any draw on the river. And I agree w/swiggidy I don't think he bets the river as a bluff so easy fold if he bets into a pat hand.

Hand 2 I probably drop the T and 6 on the first draw, you can never hit the nuts with a 6, and if you get it again, then keep it.

Although, HU may be different especially on hand 2.
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Old 10-03-2008, 12:38 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 1) I was saying draw, bet 3rd if he checks like 100%

2) Tight pre or tight post? Obviously you're ahead drawing 2.

If you draw one he'll call one more cheep bet, but may fold to the pressure on 2nd. Tight doesn't sound likely to get in a betting war if you do get to a nutish hand
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Old 10-03-2008, 01:04 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 in 1 I stood pat and folded to a lead

I dropped the Ten and 6 in two
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:25 AM #8 (permalink)  
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First hand: If you weren't sure whether or not you should discard the T on the 3rd draw, why did you bet after the 2nd? That is, if you're both drawing one, there's basically no value here, and you might get check-raised some of the time by a pat hand. I think the bet is good because you're actually a favorite over a one card draw, but otherwise it doesn't make much sense.

Second hand: Seems clear to discard the T.
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Old 10-03-2008, 03:32 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 I don't know he's drawing one until after I bet though
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Quote:
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I don't know he's drawing one until after I bet though
Oops. Yeah, I'm retarded.
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Old 10-03-2008, 04:35 AM #11 (permalink)  
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 I feel ya cuz I wrote out this long response then went, oh, shit
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