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View Poll Results: What to do here without the 2 pair
Fold it aint worth losing ur stack for no better than a chop 1 33.33%
Go all in basically what you did cause u never let a current nuts hand go by 2 66.67%
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:21 AM     Post subject: How would you play this PL 25 Omaha Hi hand on the turn #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #2904317759: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/10/27 - 04:01:52 (ET)
Table 'Ukko' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: dgwike ($6.20 in chips)
Seat 2: Pockets100 ($16.95 in chips)
Seat 5: momof3singer ($4 in chips)
Seat 6: dans macabre ($24.15 in chips)
Seat 7: justinv29 ($16.80 in chips)
Seat 8: biatch03 ($41.50 in chips)
Seat 9: B00NDOKSAINT ($25 in chips)
Pockets100: posts small blind $0.10
momof3singer: posts big blind $0.25
B00NDOKSAINT: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to B00NDOKSAINT [8h Tc Kh Qs]
melder2526 leaves the table
dans macabre: folds
justinv29: folds
biatch03: folds
B00NDOKSAINT: checks
momof3singer said, "loose poker at this table"
dgwike: calls $0.25
Pockets100: calls $0.15
momof3singer: checks
*** FLOP *** [Th Kc Jc]
Pockets100: bets $0.95
momof3singer: calls $0.95

Would u even call right here???????

B00NDOKSAINT: calls $0.95
dgwike: calls $0.95
*** TURN *** [Th Kc Jc] [As]
Pockets100: bets $4.60
momof3singer: folds

Now its obviously a chop at this point - Assume here that I didnt already have Kings and Ts to give me 4 outs to the full house against the 9 for his flush assumming he has 2 clubs. Do you even get involved in stuff like this or just toss it. He could also have a straight and trips with a board like that. The investment was so low going into this i was wonderin how many of you would just toss it. Even with the 2 pair would any of u toss this. or do what I did everytime.
There are a lot things im wonderin about the long run +EV of some stuff like this when those 4 outs are the only thing that can save u from a chop and twice as many outs u i figure can have u lose this. I keep rambling u get the questions im sure.

B00NDOKSAINT: raises $13.80 to $18.40
dgwike: folds
momof3singer said, "hope u have some deep pockets the way u play"
Pockets100: calls $11.15 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Th Kc Jc As] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Pockets100: shows [Qd 7d Js 9c] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
B00NDOKSAINT: shows [8h Tc Kh Qs] (a full house, Tens full of Kings)
vis12 joins the table at seat #4
B00NDOKSAINT collected $34.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $36.30 | Rake $1.80
Board [Th Kc Jc As Td]
Seat 1: dgwike (button) folded on the Turn

Ended up having neither anyway lol

Seat 2: Pockets100 (small blind) showed [Qd 7d Js 9c] and lost with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: momof3singer (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: dans macabre folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: justinv29 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: biatch03 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: B00NDOKSAINT showed [8h Tc Kh Qs] and won ($34.50) with a full house, Tens full of Kings
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:49 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Call or Reraise every time.
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Old 10-27-2005, 09:28 AM #3 (permalink)  
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With only a dollar invested why would you do this when the best you could ever hope to come out with given the board and the game is a tie where if u both get your whole stacks in you would be paying your investment in extra rake anyway. So I cant see how you could ever hope to profit from the play because the few times a club hits or he has trips and converts to a full house you lose your stack - all the others u break even if you would have just folded because the increased rake.
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Old 10-27-2005, 09:54 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Because there are enough idiots around who would do things like that without the straight, or with only the straight.
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