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jmontis
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06-08-2006, 01:35 AM
Post subject: how are these spots? 4-8 hand
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Full House
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$4-8 6max
UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, MP raises, Hero is SB with :As: , and BB is most likely going to call
MP has a wide range
Hero ?
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Fnord
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...calls.
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Harry
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UTG and UTG+1 will almost always call so you should probably call. Good odds for hitting the nuts.
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PSU Class of 2011 weeeeeeee!
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outphase
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it's 5.5:1.5 or 3.66:1 immediate odds and A6s is a great hand multiway in the blind for 1-1.5 bets. Folding here is too tight esp in a multiway limit game
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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Ltrain
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Flush
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Call it.
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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arkitekton
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Fold.
Even if the MP has a wide range, with this many in the pot there's a fairly good chance you're dominated--and that's an expensive habit. As for making a nut flush, you're not going to continue on most hands where you flop a backdoor draw, and you usually don't get a ton of action when you hold Axs and three to your flush flops. That leaves the roughly 4% of the time you catch a flush draw and complete it, and where you're putting in additional bets in order to do so. I just don't see most pots, even with the pf raise, going to the neighborhodd of 20 small bets. To me the possibility of a nut flush (and the c. 3% of the time you flop two pair, three of a kind, or a full house) isn't quite enough to call the pf raise out of position.
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outphase
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by saying "dominated" you misunderstand what good A6s is multiway. catching a lone A is rarely good in this spot. The intent of the hand is flopping a 4 flush and playing pot odds after that. you're looking at the 4% from the wrong direction. If you don't catch 2 of your flush, you're not putting anymore bets and when you do catch 2, you are correct in continuing. flopping the nuts will definitely be called down by a K Q or J. Catching the 4 flush in this multiway pot will more than likely lead to a 10BB pot.
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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