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matt2655

07-03-2006, 04:13 PM Post subject: How poor is this fold?

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Just a quick question on whether or not this is a reasonable fold. Ive played about 20 hands with damfino and havent seen him turn over a hand. Out of the 20 hands he's played about 3. Is this a cry call down to the river or can i assume he has a K or 2 pair? Thanks for any help.
***** Hand History for Game 4645570247 *****
$0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - Monday, July 03, 11:50:49 ET 2006
Table Meriwether (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: aizenev ( $21.18 )
Seat 5: teddykgb212 ( $8.75 )
Seat 6: BobSaget22 ( $36.18 )
Seat 3: damfin0 ( $26.03 )
Seat 2: PotatoFlavor ( $37.25 )
Seat 1: wallyboy73 ( $25 )
BobSaget22 posts small blind [$0.25].
wallyboy73 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BobSaget22 [ Qh Qs ]
PotatoFlavor folds.
damfin0 calls [$0.50].
aizenev folds.
teddykgb212 folds.
BobSaget22 raises [$0.75].
wallyboy73 calls [$0.50].
damfin0 calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 4h, 2s ]
BobSaget22 bets [$0.50].
wallyboy73 folds.
damfin0 calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
BobSaget22 bets [$1].
damfin0 raises [$2].
BobSaget22 folds.
damfin0 does not show cards.
damfin0 wins $6.50

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Hate

07-03-2006, 07:12 PM

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IMO it's a good fold there. I'd put him on a set, or a very passive player w/AK (need a read for that). But most likely the set.

pokerfanatic

07-03-2006, 08:29 PM

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Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, Q

.
1 fold, MP calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 5

, 4

, 2

(3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K

(2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hate

IMO it's a good fold there. I'd put him on a set, or a very passive player w/AK (need a read for that). But most likely the set.

in reality lets weigh out the options... and see what is a bigger mistake...

a) you fold the turn with outs to redraw 22:1 shot if he does have a K or a set you have made pot 5bb he made it 7bb, you have 7:1 pot odds probably 10:1 implied odds

b) you call, blank the river, possibly call or fold I’d call down if I called so it coasts you 2bb more to play unimproved

c) you raise, you get capped you know obviously know that you are WAY behind and now you are in real deep and will have to call 2bb more anyways...

I think that the fold is the right play you don't have odds and you have to pay 2bb more to see it, at this level i don't see this line as a bluff ever, at 3/6 and especially 5/10 I see it all WAY more so you need to be aware as you move up that it should be revaluated based on who you are playing...

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If this had happened on the river lets say that card was a 9 or something that doesn't look like it helped anyone to much... you bet he calls.

Now the K hits the river... you bet he now raises, does this change your mind whether to call or fold? The pot would be 9:1 to call...

a) you fold giving up the entire pot

b) you call and give up 1bb for a total of 10bb pot after your call if you are beat

c) you call and take down a 10bb pot when you are ahead...

NOTE: I don't think a 3 bet is the right chose that's a spew but that's not my question anyways...

What is your play here... I know what I would do that’s not why I am asking I just want to hear what you all think…

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07-04-2006, 08:28 AM

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On the river I'd call. I've seen then play TPNK this way too often, not to mention the possible bluff factor.

matt2655

07-05-2006, 05:08 PM

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I would definately call the second senario. With 1 bet into 10, I believe I have at least a 10% chance to take that pot down on the river. Also, it gives me a read on what this guy would call down to the river with my raise preflop and bet on the flop and turn.

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