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acrafty

03-15-2007, 12:16 PM Post subject: How to play against this??

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Hello Guys and Girls,

In the last few sessions I have been coming across this quite a lot. When people have stats similar to 80/0/5 or 87/1/10. I am trying to play more hands against these people, but constantly miss the flop and then have to fold.

If I rasie preflop they will call, regardless of their cards, and if the flop comes rags, I have no chance that they have not got at least a pair.

Is it just a case of sitting any waiting, but I want to get their money before someone else does. I just can't seem to combat it, as if I bet on the flop they re-rasie, and I haven't got a clue where I am against them, and they are never going to flop to a bluff.

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NWNewell

03-15-2007, 06:58 PM

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First off, where are you playing? Because I'm on my way!!

Second of all, you must be patience (sort of). Obviously, the guy is trying to give his money away... but it can't always be you that takes the money off of him. Just be happy he is so generously donating his money to the poker community. If you play well, you will eventually get his money. Buy this I mean that even if he gives his money to someone else, the money is still on the table and you can take it off of the other people. Not only can these guys feed you a feast, but they also provide other fish with money that can eventually be donated to the superior players like you. Anyway, don't worry if someone else takes his money before you get the chance... be patient.

Now, as far as playing against him. If he is involved in 80% of the pots, obviously he is playing a lot of crap and if he has a post flop agg factor of 10, his re-raise doesn't mean much either. So I would play it like this:

Don't try to steal against him preflop, obviously it won't work. But instead raise a lot more of hands for value and try to isolate him. With over 50% of your starting hands, you are a favorite against what he is going to be playing (although I wouldn't take it to that extreme). If you find yourself in an opportunity to get heads up with him before the flop, raise approximately 30% of the time (top 30 heads-up/short-handed hands, emphasis on good showdown potential like pocket pairs and any Ace).

Post flop when heads up against this guy, take your weak pairs and weaker aces to showdown more often. Since often Ace-high will be good against this kind of player. How I would adjust this is when you look at your post flop drawing odds evaluation, you don't need proper odds to call his re-raise and draw to the river with good showdown cards since often times your Ace-high or Pocket duces will be good enough to win, and sow down middle pair almost every time. For example, You've got AsTs and the flop comes something like 3s 9h Kc. You've got and over a middle card and a back door flush draw. Against this guy I would say you've probably got 5 outs. So, you would need 10:1 odds to call the flop bet/raise. However, if you do hit you know that you will get one, maybe two more bb from this maniac, and you know that they way this guy plays, your Ace-high will probably hold up relatively often. So, if you've got close to the proper odds (maybe >80% of the necessary odds), I would call down your Ace (I would treat bottom pair on the flop the same way, draw with >80% pot odds with A6 on a 69Q flop). Maybe 90%-95% for big Kings. and call down your smaller pocket pairs even on a scary board maybe as much 1/3 of the time.

Now, don't take this 80% and guidelines as strict rules. I would use this as a guideline and depending on your read of the opponent adjust it accordingly, but until you are comfortable reading the situation, don't go overboard. Keep most of your adjustments to these guidelines to the more conservative side.

Also, one thing you can do when you do hit top pair or better is bet out or raise the flop and when he raises you, just smooth call him on the flop and c/r or raise the turn. This might help slow him down a little if he his paying attention. If not, then at worst, you just get to pump the pot when you are ahead.

If their is more than one player in the pot just play your normal game and be patient.

Or you can just ignore this whole strategy idea and just be patient. You will get the money eventually either way. But hopefully adjusting your game a little bit in this direction will help you exploit more opportunities.

But keep in mind, adjusting your play in this direction might earn you a little more money in the long run, but it is also more volatile and can be frustrating. If you don't like swings, just button down and punish him with your strong hands.

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