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AidanN20
Old 02-17-2005, 04:06 AM     Post subject: How to play and adjust to INCREDIBLY TIGHT and passive ?? #1 (permalink)  
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I just posted else where, but ive played about 5 hrs at interpoker, and the players are so tight its like they are waiting for cowboys or rockets to come to even see the flop. I fold most of the table with a preflop raise form any position whether theyve called one bet already or not.

AND when the flop hits, everyone just checks along and folds to a bet. Noone has played any draws and people will only play what seems to be top pair or something extremely 90% chance of winning.

I cant make any money cause everyone runs from every good hand i get. And i play very tight, very aggressive poker....post flop i represent hands constantly that i dont hand and fold the whole table it seems and pickup the blinds $2-4 at the most ever on $1/$2, 10 player..

Out of last 200 hands, only 70 were raked because so little in pot!
What to do here?

Example 5 seconds after i posted this:
------HAND 6------
Game #363439814: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/02/17 - 00:07:34 (EST)
Table "Modesto" Seat 1 is the button.
Seat 1: MrXXL1 ($40 in chips)
Seat 3: asdfg999 ($28.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Aeneas ($34.25 in chips)
Seat 5: pokrh1 ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 6: AidanN20 ($101.25 in chips)
Seat 7: Quanah ($55.75 in chips)
Seat 8: packbacke ($28.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Budsan ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 10: testbot6 ($51.75 in chips)
asdfg999: posts small blind $0.50
Aeneas: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to AidanN20 [5h 9h]
pokrh1: folds
AidanN20: folds
Quanah: folds
packbacke: folds
Budsan: folds
testbot6: folds
MrXXL1: folds
eagles84 joins the table at seat #2
asdfg999: folds
Returned uncalled bets $0.50 to Aeneas
Aeneas: doesn't show hand
Aeneas collected $1 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $1 Main pot $1 Rake $0
Seat 1: MrXXL1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: asdfg999 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Aeneas (big blind) collected $1
Seat 5: pokrh1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AidanN20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Quanah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: packbacke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Budsan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: testbot6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

3 hands earlier:
-----HAND 2------
Game #363435504: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/02/17 - 00:03:55 (EST)
Table "Modesto" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: MrXXL1 ($41.50 in chips)
Seat 2: zenn ($26.75 in chips)
Seat 3: asdfg999 ($26 in chips)
Seat 4: Aeneas ($32.75 in chips)
Seat 5: pokrh1 ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 6: AidanN20 ($99.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Quanah ($55.75 in chips)
Seat 8: packbacke ($29 in chips)
Seat 9: Budsan ($51.50 in chips)
Seat 10: testbot6 ($53.75 in chips)
packbacke: posts small blind $0.50
Budsan: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to AidanN20 [3d Ah]
testbot6: folds
MrXXL1: folds
zenn: folds
asdfg999: folds
Aeneas: raises $2
pokrh1: folds
AidanN20: folds
Quanah: folds
packbacke: folds
Budsan: folds
Returned uncalled bets $1 to Aeneas
Aeneas: doesn't show hand
Aeneas collected $2.50 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $2.50 Main pot $2.50 Rake $0
Seat 1: MrXXL1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: zenn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: asdfg999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Aeneas collected $2.50
Seat 5: pokrh1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AidanN20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Quanah (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: packbacke (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Budsan (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: testbot6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


and like 3 hands before the top one:
------HAND 2------
Game #363432424: Texas Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2005/02/17 - 00:02:02 (EST)
Table "Modesto" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: MrXXL1 ($41.50 in chips)
Seat 2: zenn ($20.75 in chips)
Seat 3: asdfg999 ($26 in chips)
Seat 4: Aeneas ($32.75 in chips)
Seat 5: pokrh1 ($49 in chips)
Seat 6: AidanN20 ($94.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Quanah ($57.25 in chips)
Seat 8: packbacke ($30 in chips)
Seat 9: Budsan ($50 in chips)
Seat 10: testbot6 ($53.75 in chips)
pokrh1: posts small blind $0.50
AidanN20: posts big blind $1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to AidanN20 [Kc As]
Quanah: folds
Budsan: folds
testbot6: folds
MrXXL1: folds
zenn: folds
asdfg999: folds
Aeneas: folds
pokrh1: folds
Returned uncalled bets $0.50 to AidanN20
AidanN20: doesn't show hand
AidanN20 collected $1 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $1 Main pot $1 Rake $0
Seat 1: MrXXL1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: zenn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: asdfg999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Aeneas (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: pokrh1 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AidanN20 (big blind) collected $1
Seat 7: Quanah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Budsan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: testbot6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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move to party.
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:15 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Well im kind of stuck here. im half way through the needed raked hands to recieve the monthly $90 bonus for the $90 i deposited...so im going to play another 5 hrs or so this month to get it..and planned on doing it every month for the $90 bonus.

WOW I just cant get an angle
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Old 02-17-2005, 04:24 AM #4 (permalink)  
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If people are constantly playing at this level of tightness, then lower your raising standards. It's pretty simple, and go for blind steals. Being aggressive pf will help, even if they fold you are still getting the blinds. It is slow and these tables are not highly profitable, but there isnt much else that i know of that you can do.
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Old 02-17-2005, 05:55 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 if you're unwilling to move to a more lucrative site, then you will have to loosen up the table yourself. there are a variety of ways to do this. for example, you can bluff the hell out of them with 93o and then SHOW IT. then do it again on the next hand. then do it again, until they start to call you down. you can start trash talking to try and get them on tilt, or just say stupid shit that makes you sound like a total fish. "man this is the best site, i get so lucky here!!! i only started playing yesterday."

generally speaking though, you are just not going to make any serious money at a tight table, certainly not a tight aggressive table. weigh the bonus money you are trying to unlock, and the attendant risk of actually losing money to tighter players, versus the potential upside that awaits you at partypoker. how much can you make at party in the same amount of time it takes to unlock your bonus? i don't know, but you should compare the opportunity cost and act accordingly.

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Old 02-17-2005, 05:58 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Don't do silly stuff with 93o when a hand with a chance like 56s or 22 will do the trick. Also, don't try to change the way your opponents play, as it will cost more money to try than it would to adapt and exploit their natural mistakes.

You're going to have to steal more blinds and play poker with these guys post-flop. A far cry from value betting the shit out of clueless players.
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Old 02-17-2005, 11:54 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Aidan, the interpoker bonus stacks.

you can deposit / withdraw for a few months and create a $300-400 bonus and then clear it in one try.. They release it $90 at a time.

As for the players, yep, value betting agasint them becomes very painful.
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