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09-09-2005, 10:05 PM
Post subject: how much do you push this edge?
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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , T. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 (poster) raises, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (8 SB) 2, K , J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 raises, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: (8 BB) 8 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 raises, MP3 calls, SB calls, Hero calls.
River: (16 BB) 2 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP3 raises, SB folds, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.
Final Pot: 20 BB
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dalecooper
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Three-bet the flop, bet/call any raise on the turn.
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Cap the flop...Cap the turn for sure if it's still 3 opponents...If it's heads up or 2 opponents, I just call the turn raise.
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Fnord
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Easy 3-bet and you know how I feel about jamming any random draw with 8+ outs...
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Originally Posted by Fnord
.... and you know how I feel about jamming any random draw with 8+ outs...
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care to expound on that part?
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Is that guy still part of the forum??
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Shouldn't you go for overcalls? I like his play.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by iopq
Shouldn't you go for overcalls? I like his play.
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Who's folding?
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by iopq
Shouldn't you go for overcalls? I like his play.
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Who's folding? |
SB may or may not fold.
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i tend to only ram and jam pots with position. it seems like with this hand i get to take advantage of my bad position to trap my opponents with a check/cap if i hit to extract a good amount of money, while saving a bit more money when i miss.
i didn't 3bet the flop because i felt it could make UTG+1 fold. although, looking at the hand now, i needed to 3bet the turn here.
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on the turn your chances to win got halved so no
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Originally Posted by iopq
on the turn your chances to win got halved so no
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i got 15 outs. discount for the A and K out there i'll overly discount and say i got 13 outs. i'm 28% to hit the river, and i can get 3:1 on my raise. 28% > 25%....i have equity to push here.
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
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Originally Posted by iopq
on the turn your chances to win got halved so no
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i got 15 outs. discount for the A and K out there i'll overly discount and say i got 13 outs. i'm 28% to hit the river, and i can get 3:1 on my raise. 28% > 25%....i have equity to push here. |
You're right... assuming no one has a set or a higher flush draw. But due to the implied odds it's still probably correct to three-bet.
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elipsesjeff
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I'm definately getting as much money in as humaly possibly on the flop here. I lead out th e turn also and call any raise.
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