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tbdbitl
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06-09-2009, 10:40 PM
Post subject: How to improve at HORSE
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Join Date: May 2009
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I enjoy playing HORSE, but I'm not so into to play all the time. But, any advise to improve my play is always welcome.
Is it more useful to mastering HORSE to play and try to improve your weak games in HORSE indivdually or to continue to improve your play in just by playing HORSE games/tourneys. For example, if I have need to improve limit stud 8b, do I concentrate on playing ring games of stud 8b?
If I should be playing ring games at what stakes?
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BennyLaRue
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What HORSE stakes are you playing at?
I've spent significant time learning LHE, Stud and Razz and have really only played O8 and Stud/8 as part of HORSE or HOSE. Would I say that this means O8 and Stud 8 are glaring weaknesses? No, not at all, because when it comes to mixed games I play $1/$2 or lower and there is far from expert play at those limits. It's not too much of a stretch to say that simply by knowing all the rules to the games and being able to point out the poor players within a few minutes, you'll have an advantage.
I guess this is a long way of saying that as the play in each HORSE variant is far different from what you'd find at a single variant ring game, you'll do fine concentrating on mixed game formats and adjusting to the crazy play you'll find there. It won't hurt to concentrate on single variants, but it's not necessary, particularly if you don't find them as fun as mixed games.
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TLR
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You have to be at least decent in all 5 games relative to the level you play in , and then learn to stay out if trouble in your weak games
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tbdbitl
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Join Date: May 2009
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Originally Posted by TLR
You have to be at least decent in all 5 games relative to the level you play in , and then learn to stay out if trouble in your weak games
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So knowing basic starting hand requirements and strategy and practice in mixed games should do?
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wesrman
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by tbdbitl
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Originally Posted by TLR
You have to be at least decent in all 5 games relative to the level you play in , and then learn to stay out if trouble in your weak games
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So knowing basic starting hand requirements and strategy and practice in mixed games should do? |
Depends on who your opponents are, but at micros it should be ok.
Knowing how to stay out of trouble in your weak games is v important.
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Vex444
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High Card
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I would suggest playing each one separately in micros till you get stradegy of each.
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ChokeOnMySho
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 20
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Horse is fun just tiring.
Isnt it
Holdem
Omaha
Razz
and what other 2? i 4got.
I dont play it much cuz only games i understand are Holdem omaha 
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Proviper
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Join Date: May 2009
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Holdem Razz Omaha Stud and 5 card draw ? In order to be good at horse you got to know each and every game some what with some knowledge to know what you are doing when it turns into that game you cant really be good at one game and play horse you got to have knowledge of each game or it can cost you lots of chips trust me happened to me :P
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BennyLaRue
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Originally Posted by ChokeOnMySho
Horse is fun just tiring.
Isnt it
Holdem
Omaha
Razz
and what other 2? i 4got.
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Stud Hi and Stud Hi/Lo (the E being Eight or better).
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DaGrinch
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Whoville
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I really enjoy HORSE for the most part. Razz is one of my stronger games which I suppose helps. I'm no expert but I'll toss out a couple of things for what its worth.
1. Be careful in the early Hold 'em and Omaha H/L rounds. Everyone seems to think they are great at these games and it is easy to get in hands with 'too much action'. If there are two donks reraising each other max every street then I'm only playing the best starting hands and then the flop better hit me hard.
2. Don't play scared in 7 card stud. If no one raises in the first round and you have position then pay to see a 4th card. It only costs 1.5x the ante. Also, a lot of players will bet after 4th street with air and then back off.
3. Pay attention to the blind/ante structure. I play mainly at Stars and after the first two rounds the blinds/antes get so large it is sick. This makes stealing so profitable that you have to try it.
Good luck on the felts!
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pool123
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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from what i have learned playing horse ans still is learning you can be down no chips and you can come back just like that and you can lose your chips just like that but the best way to get better at horse would have a coach or play all the different games in sitngos one at time my down fall seems to be fl holdem drives me crazy but in horse in late stages you can bluff steal blinds like crazy in any game dont be weak play to win
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illphillllllll
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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i don't play horse a lot but it is one of my favorite games to play but seem to leak a lot of chips in limit holdem. i have tried playing a couple different ways but never have good results. is it a possibility that the reason i am struggling is because the stakes are small and there are just too many players seeing a flop.
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ihategnomes
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Louisiana
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A small tip. Play tighter in the games you are weaker at. Its similar to holdem. The better you play, the larger range of hands you can play properly and even better, profitably.
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Penneywize
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One thing I can tell you is that Scott Fischman (sp?) won a bracelet in HORSE even though he admittedly was not so great at Eight-Or-Better Stud. He said when it got down to heads up, they were on "E" and he waited for the blinds to shift back to Holdem to finish his opponent off.
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Crusher10
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Join Date: May 2009
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You can improve in horse by buying a new one.
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miserialol
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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Originally Posted by DaGrinch
I really enjoy HORSE for the most part. Razz is one of my stronger games which I suppose helps. I'm no expert but I'll toss out a couple of things for what its worth.
1. Be careful in the early Hold 'em and Omaha H/L rounds. Everyone seems to think they are great at these games and it is easy to get in hands with 'too much action'. If there are two donks reraising each other max every street then I'm only playing the best starting hands and then the flop better hit me hard.
2. Don't play scared in 7 card stud. If no one raises in the first round and you have position then pay to see a 4th card. It only costs 1.5x the ante. Also, a lot of players will bet after 4th street with air and then back off.
3. Pay attention to the blind/ante structure. I play mainly at Stars and after the first two rounds the blinds/antes get so large it is sick. This makes stealing so profitable that you have to try it.
Good luck on the felts!
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I think for #3 in full tilt poker it is not so profitable in the first two rounds so I wouldn't try that.
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jaap_stam
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High Card
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Also heard what Pennywize posted!
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