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Old 07-06-2007, 05:18 AM     Post subject: How do you cope? #1 (permalink)  
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I am so F***ing frustrated, I just punched my neighbor in the head (he was kinda asking for it though).

Is this river crap supposed to happen in more than 50% of my showdowns, or am I just doing the math wrong. I won't play limit for bigger money until I can fix this leak. Please let me know if I played this correctly.

Stage #700183417: Holdem Normal $0.10/$0.20 - 2007-07-06 01:05:05 (ET)
Table: MISSOURI ST (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 6 - ACIDTWIST ($2.11 in chips)
Seat 1 - NOTILOT ($2.05 in chips)
Seat 2 - BLINDDOG56 ($0.60 in chips)
Seat 3 - COOSZONE ($3.15 in chips)
Seat 4 - NURSE_KELS ($3.90 in chips)
Seat 5 - UNIBOMBER14 ($1.75 in chips)
NOTILOT - Posts small blind $0.05
BLINDDOG56 - Posts big blind $0.10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to UNIBOMBER14 [:Jh: ]
COOSZONE - Calls $0.10
NURSE_KELS - Folds
UNIBOMBER14 - Calls $0.10
ACIDTWIST - Calls $0.10
NOTILOT - Folds
BLINDDOG56 - Checks
*** FLOP *** [:Qc: :Tc: :Qd:]
BLINDDOG56 - Checks
COOSZONE - Checks
UNIBOMBER14 - Checks
ACIDTWIST - Bets $0.10
BLINDDOG56 - Folds
COOSZONE - Folds
UNIBOMBER14 - Calls $0.10
*** TURN *** [:Qc: :Tc: :Qd:] []
UNIBOMBER14 - Checks
ACIDTWIST - Bets $0.20
UNIBOMBER14 - Raises $0.40 to $0.40
ACIDTWIST - Raises $0.40 to $0.60
UNIBOMBER14 - Calls $0.20
*** RIVER *** [:Qc: :Tc: :Qd: ] [:As:]
UNIBOMBER14 - Bets $0.20
ACIDTWIST - Raises $0.40 to $0.40
UNIBOMBER14 - Calls $0.20

I lost this hand to his AQo. Did anyone see this coming?
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Old 07-06-2007, 02:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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This is completely standard and doesn't even begin to qualify as a bad beat. Even after you hit your straight on the turn, he was drawing to any A, Q, T, or 8 to complete is house. If you really wanna fix some leaks, post some hands where both players don't have monsters and hands that basically auto-play themselves.

Also, for what it's worth, I probably just go ahead and lead the flop and then after he 3-bets the turn, I am just check-calling the river with that board.
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Old 07-06-2007, 06:51 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Thanks, I was having a bad night, and was probably just venting anyway.
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Old 07-06-2007, 08:42 PM #4 (permalink)  
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bet/calling the river is retarded. You'll get raised when you're beat but you'll only get a call when youre winning. Net effect is putting more money in when youre behind and gaining nothing when youre ahead.

Check/call the river, other than that its pretty standard.

And I'm folding preflop.
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:32 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop, and the biggest leak I see here is getting mad about it.
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:44 PM #6 (permalink)  
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RAISE preflop.
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:53 PM #7 (permalink)  
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RAISE preflop.
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:20 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Yeah, I was going to say raise preflop. You should be willing to take a limpers money when they offer it to you.

Even if you somehow knew you had the worst starting hand, raising still probably has a higher expectation than the alternative plays if your opponent plays badly postflop (which is likely the case).
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:28 PM #9 (permalink)  
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bet/calling the river is retarded. You'll get raised when you're beat but you'll only get a call when youre winning. Net effect is putting more money in when youre behind and gaining nothing when youre ahead.

Check/call the river, other than that its pretty standard.

And I'm folding preflop.
Ignore everything I said here. What the fuck was I smoking? b/f is ok.
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At .10/.20, is there ANY reason not to think opp is jamming with just trips that he thinks are still good? There is no reason I can think of to believe the river card helped him, I'm probably even going to put in the 3rd bet on the river.
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