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Knytestorme
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07-01-2005, 10:26 AM
Post subject: How could I extract more money?
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 562
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Had this hand a minute ago and not sure if I really could have played it any differently to try and get more money unless someone hit the ace flush.
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 , 5. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, UTG+1 (poster) checks, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero checks.
Flop: (5.50 SB) 3, 6, 4 (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) K (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.
River: (4.75 BB) 7 (4 players)
[color:#CC3333]Hero bets[/color], UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds.
Final Pot: 6.75 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has 7d 5d (straight flush, seven high).
UTG+1 has Jd 4c (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 6.75 BB.
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Party 6 max
Posts: 1,602
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Bet the flop, and hope you get raised. Bet the turn. People are still drawing to something. Make them pay for it, even if they are drawing dead. No one is going to give you credit for the nuts if you bet out. They will if you checkraise the turn.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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poskid_1982
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Midwest
Posts: 392
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
Bet the flop, and hope you get raised. Bet the turn. People are still drawing to something. Make them pay for it, even if they are drawing dead. No one is going to give you credit for the nuts if you bet out. They will if you checkraise the turn.
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Definately always bet the nuts and second nuts out...you'll be surprised at how many people bluff at pots on the turn on flush boards. If you dont fast play this hand then the Ad isnt going to put more money in on the turn...and who knows...maybe they'll jam the flop when you bet out 
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Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
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Fnord
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
Posts: 19,333
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A is giving you action. Either bet or c/r this flop. In limit you need a REALLY REALLY good reason to pass up a bet with the best hand.
Second, stop worrying about hand like this. Play them fast more often than not and don't think about much more about it. I worry a lot more about hands where I have less or my opponent(s) have less because those situations happen much more often.
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Knytestorme
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 562
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yeah, can see the points there, and who would really expect my hand to match that flop really...specially coming from bb where I could have anything.
I think I got caught up in a little nl mindset there really as I was going to cold call any bet on the turn as well and then try to slam the river but got a feeling that sort of play isn't really a good idea when I can't get all the stack in one hand.....definatly need to adjust myself still so thanks for the opinions 
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Fnord
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
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Consider, that when I see "a do not slow play" thread it's usually some luckbox that caught a 2 outer or something. When really it's hands like that that make slow playing often a bad idea.
Furthermore, consider this a lesson on the importance of position. With position a flop raise represents a wider range of hands because it could be a free card play. Also, you wouldn't let a big bet round get checked through. Without position you have to resort to check/raise and bet/raise lines which are very read driven.
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livenowson
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2
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more or not people at ur limits will continue to chase so I would bet the flop and continue through the streets. a check raise rarely profits in these kind of games
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outphase
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 949
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look at UTG+1's hand for a second, note the diamond, you would've gotten a turn call or even a flop raise call with that. You don't want to give the diamonds a free card even though they're drawing dead... You're missing a ton of bets that way
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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