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Old 08-08-2006, 03:11 AM     Post subject: How bad was this #1 (permalink)  
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 On a scale of 1-10....

Villain was 35/10/2.5 with a 26/41 WSD/W$SD through about 150 hands. Folds SB to steal 70%.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, K.
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 6, 2, 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls $18 (All-In).

Final Pot: 10.40 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 5c 5h (one pair, fives).
Hero has Qs Ks (high card, ace).
Outcome: SB wins 10.30 BB. Hero wins 0.10 BB.

After the hand was over I thought "how the hell can he still call that turn card" but then I thought maybe I should have just given it up with such a small pot.


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Old 08-08-2006, 09:55 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Anyone have any comments, advice, thoughts, snide remarks?


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shorter stack = no fold equity
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shorter stack = no fold equity
Assume that we didnt see his short stack when doing this (because I didnt).


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I actually quite like this hand if he has a normal stack, especially with his low WSD. 150 hands is nowhere enough for that stat though
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 I was thinking we at least need a gutshot to make it profitable. I dont think on pure folding equity alone can we make it correct. but I think it is really close. The only one's I've gotten it to work against are where I have a flush draw or OESD or both, but, then again small sample.

I'm still surprised he called with that holding, maybe i'm the only one bet/folding that turn with a pair of 5s.


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The turn play is good against most, but I think you should check behind on the river if he calls. If he called on the turn with a pair, he isn't folding on the river, especially since he doesn't even have to call a full bet.
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 I actually think the river bet is the most +EV over anything. Considering I dont have THAT great of a showdownable hand, I'm getting 8-1 on this follow through and that is where the money is made.


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especially since he doesn't even have to call a full bet.
Just because you said this, I'm going to post this hand sans converter for fun.

***** Hand History for Game 4908997815 *****
$10/$20 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, August 09, 00:56:38 ET 2006
Table Monster #1277091 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: aronaron ( $391.75 )
Seat 2: howdoesitfeel ( $337.75 )
Seat 3: BRO514 ( $80.50 )
Seat 4: KingCodeRed ( $416.50 )
Seat 6: MonkaBear ( $77 )
KingCodeRed posts small blind [$5].
MonkaBear is sitting out.
aronaron posts big blind [$10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to KingCodeRed [ Ad Qd ]
BRO514 raises [$20].
KingCodeRed raises [$25].
aronaron raises [$30].
BRO514 calls [$20].
KingCodeRed calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Kc, 5d ]
KingCodeRed checks.
aronaron checks.
BRO514 bets [$10].
KingCodeRed raises [$20].
aronaron folds.
BRO514 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
KingCodeRed bets [$20].
BRO514 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
KingCodeRed bets [$20].
>You have options at Hughesdale Table!.
BRO514 folds.
KingCodeRed does not show cards.
The time at which hand ended:Aug 09 2006 00:57 ET
KingCodeRed wins $219
MonkaBear has left the table.

Calculate how much money villain has left when he folds. It will amuse you.


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