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rubixstreub

12-17-2005, 02:00 AM Post subject: Hitting MP with PP's

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What's your line on these heads up or 3 handed? With position and only one over I run bet, bet, check behind. Out of position I'll bet, bet, bet all the way down, backing off if I get raised. Sorry, general question, but playing strong middle pairs post flop is a problem I need to fix.

HAND #1

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T

, T

.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (11.00 SB) 8

, A

, 8

(5 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: (8.00 BB) 6

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (10.00 BB) 5

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10.00 BB.

HAND #1
This Hand Super Sucked. The voice in my head said RAISE THE FLOP AND SEE WHERE YOU ARE!!! Assuming I did raise and 1 (or both) of these guys go into call down mode, is it correct to bet this all the way through the river?

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

, J

.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) K

, 2

, 9

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero folds, BB calls, UTG+2 folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, MP3 bets, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) K

(2 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB.

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rubixstreub

12-17-2005, 05:01 PM

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Better Line for these situations?

Villian is TA, figure he wouldn’t cap with QQ or less, but when he doesn’t raise me on the turn I figure I may be good. Value bet the river?

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, Q

.
3 folds, MP3 raises, 1 folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP3 caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 4

, K

, 7

(2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 9

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 4

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.75 BB.

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12-17-2005, 05:57 PM

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I like raising the flop checking the turn, especially if he'll wait for the turn to pop you with AA or AK. Otherwise, probably just another donker.

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rubixstreub

12-17-2005, 06:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

I like raising the flop checking the turn, especially if he'll wait for the turn to pop you with AA or AK. Otherwise, probably just another donker.

okay, raise the flop, check behind on the turn... then what's your river play? Bet if checked to, call if bet into I assume?

Are you letting go if he donks into you on the turn?

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12-17-2005, 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

I like raising the flop checking the turn, especially if he'll wait for the turn to pop you with AA or AK. Otherwise, probably just another donker.

okay, raise the flop, check behind on the turn... then what's your river play? Bet if checked to, call if bet into I assume?

Are you letting go if he donks into you on the turn?

Really read dependant. If i check behind the turn here I will auto/call any bet, but not overcall. If checked to you can bet here and win a good 50% of the time to make the bet worth value. The autocall is because some idiots will donk bet the river with marginal holdings even worse than your own that would normally have folded had you bet. Also, it will be a complete bluff sometimes as well.

If he donks again on the turn you should fold and put it in your memory bank. If it happens again call him down (Fold Now Call Next Time theorem). Also, with good holdings, make sure you raise his donk bets.

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