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Danh Bai
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08-18-2008, 06:03 AM
Post subject: Hate wild card games / recommend any hold em alternatives?
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Straight
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I've been playing poker w/a group of friends and it's always been dealers choice: bit of hold em, and lots of wild card games.
I got tired of losing and began reading up and practicing hold 'em and suggested we do a whole session of NL hold em. Everyone has been into it and we've been sticking to it for the last 6 months.
I've gotten better and better and come out w/most of the chips 2 out of 3 sessions. The last couple times some of the others started grumbling about wanting to back to wild card games for variety.
We did some wild card games last time and i don't enjoy them at all. It seems like way too much luck/not enough skill involved. Every hand someone has a straight flush or 5 of a kind!
I could play hold em all day every day, but i understand you have to give others action on their game. I just can't stand those wild card games. So I'm trying to find some alternatives to hold em that don't involve wild cards, but are still exciting. 7 card stud and 5 card draw we've all agreed are a bit slow. I know Omaha, any other suggestions?
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TLR
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Omaha and omaha hi lo are good options
You can try crazy pineapple
2-7 triple draw is also an action game
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oskar
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You are probably overvaluating your hands in wildcard games. That's the most common mistake. And naturally in a wildcard game, you really really want to have wildcards in your hand. 
I particularly like the lowball games: Razz, 2-7, HI/LO games.
Blind man's bluff is somewhere in the middle.
deal more boards!
start with 2, 3 flop/turn/river HE, and then ramp it up to 5, 6 flop Omaha, Greek HE...
I hate chinese poker, but some people like it, and it's quite different... worth a try.
Pineapple, crazy pineapple, 3-card omaha - you can introduce all 3 in a day they're not hard to keep apart, but it messes with your head.
7s variants if you guys like limit - has to be played limit... you'll figure out why if you change it. - 7s8, razz, baseball (may contain wildcards  )
I like to play a different game every now and then, but even after years of playing, I still enjoy NLHE the most. I like the balance between theory psychology and luck.
I also hate PLO with a passion. I take any willdcard/lowball game over PLO any day.
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wesrman
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Full House
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Stud FTW ! ! ! !
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The_OG_Rocco
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Try playing 'Super Hold'Em'.
Instead of one row of community cards, the dealer flops two rows of community cards. Each player can then only use one of the rows to make his/her best five card hand combination.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
Try playing 'Super Hold'Em'.
Instead of one row of community cards, the dealer flops two rows of community cards. Each player can then only use one of the rows to make his/her best five card hand combination.
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in SHE, are you forced to pick a board on the flop? or, do you wait for the river and pick the best board flip-flopping as community cards are dealt?
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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The_OG_Rocco
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Originally Posted by Chopper
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Originally Posted by The_OG_Rocco
Try playing 'Super Hold'Em'.
Instead of one row of community cards, the dealer flops two rows of community cards. Each player can then only use one of the rows to make his/her best five card hand combination.
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in SHE, are you forced to pick a board on the flop? or, do you wait for the river and pick the best board flip-flopping as community cards are dealt? |
You can choose either board by fifth street, flip flopping if necessary as the community cards are dealt.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
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lol. i just dealt some while on the can.
i grabbed a hand of KK that spiked a set on one board and the 2nd nut flush draw on the other.
i thought, "how much fun if you had to choose right now which board to play?"
obv, the As hit the flushy board, giving off the nuts, but i chose the set for the "sure thing." as it looked like i had made the wrong choice, the board with the set paired and delivered the boat.
along with MY friends that would be calling with anything....that would have created a lot of action indeed!
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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TLR
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BTW my home game has a much crazier variant of this game, it goes something like this:
You use two decks of cards (independantly, you dont mix them together), each player get dealt 3 cards from each deck - total of 6 cards.
You run the flop turn and river from each deck, so you have two sets of community cards, betting is independant on each board, so you have two pots simoulatinously.
The best hands are made as in Omaha h/l, and you can use any 2 of the 6 cards that you have to make the best hand, as long as it makes a valid poker hand.
So for example: you are dealt red deck: Ah Kd 4c blue deck: Kc 2h 7s
Red board: 3c 4c 7d kc ks
Blue board: Ah Ac 8c 9c 2d
On the red board you have A2347 for low, and a boat with Kd 7s from your hand, you dont have a 4 of a kind becuase kd kc kc ks is not a valid poker hand
Blue board: you have K high flush for high an A2478 for low
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The_OG_Rocco
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Originally Posted by Chopper
lol. i just dealt some while on the can.
i grabbed a hand of KK that spiked a set on one board and the 2nd nut flush draw on the other.
i thought, "how much fun if you had to choose right now which board to play?"
obv, the As hit the flushy board, giving off the nuts, but i chose the set for the "sure thing." as it looked like i had made the wrong choice, the board with the set paired and delivered the boat.
along with MY friends that would be calling with anything....that would have created a lot of action indeed!
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I agree. It is a very fun version of HoldEm. Lots of big hands.
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wesrman
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Full House
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Originally Posted by wesrman
Stud FTW ! ! ! !
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This.
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dsaxton
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Stud is easily the most interesting / difficult form of poker.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
Stud is easily the most interesting / difficult form of poker.
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Too many betting rounds, doesn't play big bet, river play is a snooze and dealing the river face down just makes it worse.
http://www.geocities.com/mississippi_seven/
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wesrman
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
Stud is easily the most interesting / difficult form of poker.
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Too many betting rounds, doesn't play big bet, river play is a snooze and dealing the river face down just makes it worse.
http://www.geocities.com/mississippi_seven/ |
Ban ! ! ! !
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FlowJoe
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Fnord,
You CANNOT be serious!!!
Peace,
FLOW
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