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06-15-2005, 01:15 AM
Post subject: Hands from today
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Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , K . CO posts a blind of $15.
2 folds, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, CO calls.
Flop: (8.50 SB) J , 3 , Q (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (7.25 BB) Q (3 players)
SB checks, CO bets, Hero folds, SB calls.
River: (9.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, CO checks.
Final Pot: 9.25 BB
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , K .
UTG raises, 1 fold, CO 3-bets, Button caps, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, CO calls.
Flop: (20 SB) J , 6 , A (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, CO raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.
Turn: (16 BB) 3 (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.
River: (20 BB) A (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, CO raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button calls.
Final Pot: 29 BB
A little background on this one: Enemy capped the previous hand with me HU with QJo and has a 25 PFR.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 , A .
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) J , 6 , A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 8 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.
River: (10.75 BB) Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: 10.75 BB
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , 9 .
Hero raises, MP calls, Button calls, 2 folds.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 9 , T , 5 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP calls, Button calls.
Turn: (5.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.
River: (13.25 BB) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 15.25 BB
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is Button with 6 , K .
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 6 , 8 , 2 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (4.25 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
River: (6.25 BB) 7 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 8.25 BB
I've toned down my hand selection a little bit. Raising ATo and up in Any position and A9o in most LP situations. Raising K9s and up in any position first in. Raising 66 and up any position first in and 22-55 first in in CO and better. Three betting 88 and better. Raising A9s and up first in all positions. So far I'm running 25.62 vpip and 16.6 PFR with a 40 WSD and 50 W$SD. I'm trying to get that WSD down but its hard when calling down Ace high a lot. Whats a good WSD for 6 max?
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well played on all hands methinds. i might do a bet/call on that trip 9s with K9s, but it can't matter much either way.
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Gatlin Dan
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
well played on all hands methinds. i might do a bet/call on that trip 9s with K9s, but it can't matter much either way.
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That's one thing that kind of stuck out to me as well. I would lean toward betting the river and calling a 3-bet if raised.
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elipsesjeff
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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 , 6 .
UTG raises, MP calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero calls, BB 3-bets, UTG caps, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.
Flop: (20 SB) 2 , 7 , 3 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP raises, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, MP caps, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Turn: (18 BB) 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG folds, MP calls, Button folds.
River: (23 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.
Final Pot: 25 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has 7s 6s (two pair, sevens and sixes).
MP has Ac Ad (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 25 BB.
....pwnt.
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Gatlin Dan
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jeff--do you often call one and half bets from sb with middle suited connectors in your six max games? The aggressive nature of six-max games would lead me to think suited connectors like this lose value in these short-handed aggressive games?
Did you have a read on UTG?
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
jeff--do you often call one and half bets from sb with middle suited connectors in your six max games? The aggressive nature of six-max games would lead me to think suited connectors like this lose value in these short-handed aggressive games?
Did you have a read on UTG?
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Well, I've always loved suited connectors, they have 2 ways of winning, flushes and straights. And on top of that they look pretty good on low boards against aggressive opponents preflop. What would you think UTG has if he's capping facing 5 opponents calling? I had a pretty good feeling of what he had based on how the board was. And with all those other opponents in hand I had a good idea that his outs were tainted and if I did hit I would win big. MP was the same way, the only way he caps that board is with an overpair, as does UTG 3 betting (although UTG 3 bets here possibly with AK).
And, to that extent, is this really a 6 max hand per se when you have 5 opponents seeing a flop? If anything it just leads to them playing more marginal cards and myself being in better position. I've also got great folding equity and I was hoping the opponent would three bet me on the turn because at that point I knew I had him. And, it was a discount to call this hand, I was getting around 6.5-1 pot odds to call (similar to calling in a full ring game with 6 opponents in the hand and you're in LP, in a full ring game I may almost raise this hand) and in this case enormous implied odds on top of that. Once I hit my pair on the flop there is no way I can fold this pot so I can only hope for the best.
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Gatlin Dan
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I'm not real familiar with 6-max so I was kind of curious about your thinking behind it.
I think UTG may have AK, but I would think more like QQ. 5 to the flop seemed kind of strange, especially for 6-max. I agree that this hand can be raised in a very multi-way pot.
Does the BB 3-betting cause you concern here? You pretty much have to figure on it getting capped. You're implied odds are good if you connect with the flop, but having to pay four bets to see this flop, would personally make me question whether I should have entered the pot in the first place.
with all that pre-flop action that flop looks good, and you know you're collecting bets on both the turn and the river, barring a very long shot miracle river card.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
I'm not real familiar with 6-max so I was kind of curious about your thinking behind it.
I think UTG may have AK, but I would think more like QQ. 5 to the flop seemed kind of strange, especially for 6-max. I agree that this hand can be raised in a very multi-way pot.
Does the BB 3-betting cause you concern here? You pretty much have to figure on it getting capped. You're implied odds are good if you connect with the flop, but having to pay four bets to see this flop, would personally make me question whether I should have entered the pot in the first place.
with all that pre-flop action that flop looks good, and you know you're collecting bets on both the turn and the river, barring a very long shot miracle river card.
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You're thinking is right. In fact a fold here could be argued here just as well. My blind play is very very loose if you havent been able to tell over the last couple months I've really loosened things up.
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Gatlin Dan
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You can probably play the blinds looser in 6-max than in full ring. Is that right?
Do you have PT stats on your blinds before and after you loosened up? Play from the blinds is quite interesting and a lot more complex than I used to give it credit for?
BTW, congrats on quitting your internship. Awesome, mang.
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