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elipsesjeff

11-29-2005, 03:43 AM Post subject: Guess the Opponent hands

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, Q

.
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, 2 folds, MP3 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero caps, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 6

, K

, 3

(3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 7

(2 players)
MP3 bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) 6

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, Q

.
3 folds, MP2 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6

, 9

, T

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) K

(2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 2

(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

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11-29-2005, 07:27 AM

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Why no river bet in the first hand? Did you think he got sexy?

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11-29-2005, 12:24 PM

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Why no river bet in the first hand? Did you think he got sexy?

That was going to be my next question if I actually missed a bet or is checking good here.

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11-29-2005, 01:46 PM

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Hand 1: A

/JJ/TT/99
Hand 2: AT/QQ/JJ

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11-30-2005, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fnord

Hand 1: A

/JJ/TT/99
Hand 2: AT/QQ/JJ

I would add KQ to hand 1 (though I think 99-JJ is more likely here)
and add the naked Ac to hand 2.

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i almost always bet the river in hand 1

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11-30-2005, 10:57 PM

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In Hand 1 his line SCREAMS AK, or at least a pair of Kings. He had 88.

Hand 2: He had 77, no club.

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12-01-2005, 02:33 AM

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In Hand 1 his line SCREAMS AK, or at least a pair of Kings. He had 88.

Hand 2: He had 77, no club.

Hand 1 doesn't look like a king because then he'd probably 3-bet the flop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

In Hand 1 his line SCREAMS AK, or at least a pair of Kings. He had 88.

Hand 2: He had 77, no club.

Hand 1 doesn't look like a king because then he'd probably 3-bet the flop

Um.. no.
It doesn't look like AK because he checked the river. Up until that point it is perfect play for AK given the preflop and flop action.
Why would you 3 bet the flop vs a player who capped cold preflop and raised your flop bet? Your opponent can see that there is a king on the board as well as you can.

More specifically what range of hands caps from the button cold?
Then of that range, which raise this flop?
How does AK fare against this possible range?

the turn donk bet is pretty consistent with AK not wanting the turn to get checked through.
bet/call... bet/call... check/call is a standard line.

However when jeff just called the turn bet, the line should change to
bet/call... bet... bet

It is the lack of the river bet that makes this look like a pocket pair<KK

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