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Old 02-24-2005, 03:14 AM     Post subject: Got Nutz? #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 5 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) , , (3 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10.66 BB) (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 22.66 BB

Results in white below:
BB has 5h 5s (full house, queens full of nines).
UTG+1 has Ks Ah (full house, queens full of nines).
Hero has Ac Qc (four of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 22.66 BB.
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Old 02-24-2005, 04:02 AM #2 (permalink)  

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I like his 3-bet. It keeps you guessing.
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 I think i would ram and jam this harder.
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Old 02-24-2005, 04:26 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I think i would ram and jam this harder.
If I do I lose both of them and make no money.
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just to mention it....

the dude with AK is a moron. he is splitting the pot as best, and his 3bet has absolutely no expected value whatsoever.

the other dude with 55 should of folded the river EASY. he is getting 6:1 to split the pot....not very good odds if you ask me.
 
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Old 02-24-2005, 04:42 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 Thats a tough call there whether to raise the turn, you have the obvious nuts so you dont want to drive people out of hte pot. I think the only reason these two stuck around on the river cuz they thought it was split. If you raise the turn, the BB folds and its just HU for a check call. If BB had bet out again then you would have to raise here on the turn.


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Thats a tough call there whether to raise the turn, you have the obvious nuts so you dont want to drive people out of hte pot. I think the only reason these two stuck around on the river cuz they thought it was split. If you raise the turn, the BB folds and its just HU for a check call. If BB had bet out again then you would have to raise here on the turn.


Oh, btw....I dont know what you guys are talking about. My full house, Ace high King kicker is the nuts. Didn't you know we play best 7 card hand?
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i think its safe to call the turn and raise the river because you know it won't be checked behind you on the river since you have position
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:53 AM #9 (permalink)  
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i think its safe to call the turn and raise the river because you know it won't be checked behind you on the river since you have position
Correct. I would have had to be more aggressive out of position and lead so it doesn't get checked behind me but I felt with position, checking to the river would get me the most money. It just happened to be that both UTG+1 and the BB were retarted.
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Old 02-24-2005, 06:30 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Raise the flop, it's your best change to get action going. A hand like AA/KK also would be more likely to play back at you there.
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:30 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 agree, you should have raised the flop. reason being that your opponents already put their money in, so they were 90% likely to call one more bet. they would not have faced a double bet if you raised. plus, they were in action mode after capping pre-flop, so they weren't about to let go of any hand.

yes, there was risk that they would check to you on the turn, but once that third queen fell, your opponents cannot possibly have believed you had the case queen. it was too improbable. usually when something like this happens, it is a dead giveaway to me that the aggressor was bluffing. so if i was one of your opponents, i would have bet into you or checkraised you on the turn with any 9, A, or PP.

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