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Old 06-05-2008, 07:11 AM     Post subject: Good or bad fold on river? #1 (permalink)  
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villain is 35/12/1.5 over 500h

nasty nasty river, is 8-1 enough for a crying call? should i b/f the river instead?

1/2 Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($64.00)
UTG+1 ($70.74)
MP1 ($80.50)
Hero ($102.00)
CO ($356.89)
BTN ($113.59)
SB ($39.00)
BB ($28.75)

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 8 players) Hero is MP2
3 folds, Hero raises, CO calls, BTN calls, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (8.5 SB, 4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, 1 fold, BB folds

Turn: (5.2 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

River: (7.2 BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, CO says "fh", Hero folds

Final Pot: 8.2 BB

CO wins 8.0 BB ( won +4.5 BB )
BB lost 1.0 BB
Hero lost 2.5 BB
BTN lost 1.0 BB
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Against a typical low stakes player I would probably b/f this river since you rep the FH yourself and it's hard for him to raise without at least a T.

If you are against an aggressive opponent who will bluff scary rivers then c/c is better.

c/f feels a bit weak. He could have been calling along with a lone diamond or QJ, etc., and see your check as an invitation to steal the pot.

I wouldn't put any stock into what he typed into the chat box, as the last time someone typed 'fh' in against me they had 8 high (luckily I had quads so it didn't matter if they were telling the truth or not!).
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:54 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I agree that the c/f was weak. Without a read, I probably go into this river with a plan to c/c. With most of the range an opponent would likely call down with, he's either folding (missed draw) or beating you (9, T, mid-pp) so there's no value bet to be had.

If anything, the chat box 'fh' is more likely to make me call. If he truly had a fh, he wants a call or raise from you. Scaring you off with a comment is not helping to acheive that. Odds are it's a chat-bluff.
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