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getting raised when I have AA, did i play chicken ?

  
 
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Old 05-01-2005, 08:23 AM     Post subject: getting raised when I have AA, did i play chicken ? #1 (permalink)  
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One of the biggest leaks (among other big leaks that is ) is when i have TPTK or Overpair and I get check raised on the turn, i 3bet it or sometimes cap it if its 3 bet and time and time again i get shown 2 pair or straight on the river.

The following 3 hands has the same pattern , I got reraised on all those hands. but this time i didnt reraise further. was it too timid or was it correct.

as always, thanks guys for taking the time to help us lower limit players improve our game.

also, after 3000 hands i was looking at my position stats.

positions 2-6 are all profitable for me. BB is huge negative (-135 bb). Weirdest thing is my Button is -10bb. I must not be playing the button right or is it small sample ??

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Hand 1:
Should I have 3-bet the turn. What I have been doing mistakes is that I cap the turn on a 3-bet or 3-bet the turn on a raise and then i get shown 2 pair on my TPTK. I didnt want to take that risk again. also by the turn there were straight possiblities. also was checking the river too timid. I wanted to get to showdown and not get raised.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls,Hero raises,3 folds, SB calls,1 fold, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 6, T, 4 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks,Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks,MP1 bets,Hero raises,SB 3-bets, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (15.50 BB) J (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

Results in white below:

SB has Kd Tc (one pair, tens).
MP1 has Qs Jc (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Ah Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 15.50 BB.
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Hand 2:

Same as hand 1. A lot of people play K-J so it was scary for me. Usually when someone 3 bets me, and I only have TPTK, i go to the river and get shown 2 pair. should i have capped the turn ?? Same reason i didnt raise on river also, didnt want to get reraised. am i missing too much bets in my game when i do have a good hand.



Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls,2 folds,Hero raises,2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 8, K, J (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks,UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls,Hero raises, BB calls, UTG folds,UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 6 (3 players)
[color:#CC3333]UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks,MP1 bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

Results in white below:

UTG+2 has Kh Qd (one pair, kings).
MP1 has Jh Td (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Ad Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 17.25 BB.

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Hand 3:

did i play it right on the turn and not 3 bet there ?
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls,3 folds, MP3 calls,2 folds,Hero raises,1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 6, 4, 3 (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls,MP3 raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (10 BB) T (2 players)
Hero checks,MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ks Qd (one pair, kings).
MP3 has 5d Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 12 BB.
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Hand 4:

No need to cap the flop. there could be a made straight or a flush draw and i am just sweetening the pot for him ??
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q.
UTG calls,1 fold,UTG+2 raises, MP1 calls,1 fold, MP3 calls,Hero 3-bets,2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (18.50 SB) 4, 5, 2 (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks,MP1 bets, MP3 calls,Hero raises, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds,MP1 3-bets, MP3 calls,Hero caps, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (17.25 BB) 3 (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks,MP3 bets, Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (21.25 BB) 9 (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 21.25 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Qh 6h (straight, six high).
MP1 has 2h 2s (three of a kind, twos).
MP3 has 6d 5c (straight, six high).
Hero has Qs Qd (one pair, queens).
Outcome: MP3 wins 10.62 BB. BB wins 10.62 BB.
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:48 AM #2 (permalink)  
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ps on the hand converter if you change color:#CC3333 to color=#CC3333 it will work

hand1: raise the turn and bet the river, IMO you missed at least 2 bets here

hand2: cap the flop, bet the rest the way (even if he has the KJ you have 2 aces that will win and backdoor straight so your looking at about 5 outs IF he has KJ) this might be debatable with some people but unless I get raised on the turn I think my AA might still be goot

Hand3: it's hard to put him on AK or KK since 85% of players at .5/1 no matter how passive they are will most likely bet/raise preflop with either those hands I continue betting it out till the river

Hand4: Nice to slow down there with that many players in the pot your QQ is probably no longer goot especially with that flop action, sad to say but I might have found a fold in there somewhere, given the crazy loose play and aggression... that might be a wrong thought though...
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Old 05-01-2005, 10:37 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic01
Hand3: it's hard to put him on AK or KK since 85% of players at .5/1 no matter how passive they are will most likely bet/raise preflop with either those hands I continue betting it out till the river
Wow, they must have improved since I moved up...
 
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