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Old 10-23-2006, 06:31 PM     Post subject: Getting away from 3K + A #1 (permalink)  
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I should have gotten away from this one at some point. Part of it is I have a hard time dumping anything 3 of a kind or higher if there aren't obvious draws smacking me in the head. The other part is that, with this one, I had the gut that one of the opps had the one hand that could beat me (TT)... but with the pot size, I just couldn't figure out where to drop. Plus was not HU, which made it impossible for me to just see the SD as cheaply as possible after initial Turn action.

Any suggestions or feedback would be appreciated...

Seat 1: squirel57 ($47.60 in chips)
Seat 2: ertoni ($44.10 in chips)
Seat 3: hiayagxsu ($95.50 in chips)
Seat 5: webmaste13 ($55.30 in chips)
Seat 6: lord-FIN ($12.25 in chips)
Seat 7: Romancier ($25 in chips)
Seat 8: sunisland ($20.05 in chips)
Seat 9: Hero [KC,AC] ($29.25 in chips)
Seat 10: Teor ($16.20 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
squirel57 posts blind ($0.25), ertoni posts blind ($0.50).

PRE-FLOP
hiayagxsu folds, webmaste13 bets $1, lord-FIN folds, Romancier folds, sunisland folds, Hero bets $1.50, Teor bets $2, squirel57 calls $1.75, ertoni folds, webmaste13 calls $1, Hero calls $0.50.

FLOP [board cards 10H,KD,KH ]
squirel57 checks, webmaste13 checks, Hero bets $0.50, Teor bets $1, squirel57 calls $1, webmaste13 calls $1, Hero bets $1, Teor bets $1, squirel57 calls $1, webmaste13 calls $1, Hero calls $0.50.

TURN [board cards 10H,KD,KH,3S ]
squirel57 checks, webmaste13 bets $1, Hero calls $1, Teor bets $2, squirel57 folds, webmaste13 bets $2, Hero calls $2, Teor calls $1.

RIVER [board cards 10H,KD,KH,3S,8C ]
webmaste13 bets $1, Hero calls $1, Teor bets $2, webmaste13 bets $2, Hero calls $2, Teor bets $2, webmaste13 calls $1, Hero calls $1.

SHOWDOWN
Teor shows [ 5S,KS ]
webmaste13 shows [ 10D,10C ]
Hero mucks cards [ KC,AC ]
webmaste13 wins $37.

SUMMARY
Dealer: Teor
Pot: $37.50, (including rake: $0.50)
squirel57, loses $4
ertoni, loses $0.50
hiayagxsu, loses $0
webmaste13, bets $11, collects $37, net $26
lord-FIN, loses $0
Romancier, loses $0
sunisland, loses $0
Hero, loses $11
Teor, loses $11
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Old 10-24-2006, 04:43 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 10-24-2006, 06:34 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Sorry bigspenda.... faq violation posting the results, I know.

But how else can I get the satisfaction of sharing my pain???

And thanks for the validation. I feel slightly less like a moron sticking it out to the end of this hand.
 
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:26 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I don't understand... You DON'T get away from this hand.

You should have gotten more money in the pot on the turn and then usually smile when they turn up KJ, KQ, Kx.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:55 PM #5 (permalink)  
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With a read that opponents are solid players, it is possible to get away from this on the river. The reason is that when both of them are still raising on the river, one of them has to have the boat because there is only one K left, and no reasonable solid player is in full aggression mode with less than trips here. This is, however, low stakes, and you can never lay a hand this strong down. Shit, I've seen QQ, AT, a flush draw all play that aggressively on a board like that (even the missed flush draw on the river capping with no hand as if anyone would fold for 1 bet in a 30 bet pot). I can understand calling down on the river, and that is reasonable, but you really need to still be aggressive on the turn. Once again, I want to mention that it is not these big hands and big pots that are your problem. They may be causing a good bit of variance right now, but that averages out in the long run. You are obviously not pushing marginal hands too hard in big pots from the hands you've posted. Winning or losing a bet or 2 on a big hand is not really a big deal. But this is limit, and the biggest disaster of a mistake you can make is laying down a strong hand in a big pot when it is the best hand. Don't worry about the big laydowns. You shouldn't even be thinking about making a big laydown in low stakes limit poker. Post some top pair hands or something.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:58 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Sorry, I think the pot size says I call down even knowing I'm getting capped.
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