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G_host
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11-02-2005, 09:25 PM
Post subject: Getting aggro against mainiac, a bit too much maybe?
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sweden
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UTG+1,UTG+2 and CO is calling way to much and generaly bad players. Button is the real reason I'm here. Got him on 90+/13 over 150 hands. Aggro pf likes capping andis bluffing alot.
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Not worried of his 3-bet, seen him done this with suited anything. Anyone capping this?
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T , A .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.
Trying to get UTG+1 and CO out of this hand, the raise from button was expected but the cap is getting me slightly orried, he's usally not bluffing into aggression this much. Is the 3 bet for getting CO out of the hand to much?
Flop: (14.50 SB) 4, T, Q (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, Button caps, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, CO calls.
Really didn't like this card, betting out and hoping the others didn't either. Going to fold for a raise from UTG and CO, call a raise from Button.
Anyone for checking/call or fold here?
Turn: (15.25 BB) Q (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+2 folds.
Bad position, going for a check call. CO calling us down all the way has spooked me. Seing JJ, KK, Qjunk....
Who's for bet and then call or fold here?
River: (18.25 BB) 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.
Final Pot: 18.25 BB
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Fnord
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Anyone up for a turn check/raise?
I think I manage to bet the river too when no one raises the turn.
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G_host
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Anyone up for a turn check/raise?
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Wasn't even close of think about it when I played this hand but now that you are writing it could ave been just the thing. Most certain Button would have bet and I would probably gotten CO out of this hand, or had even more info on him....
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Anyone up for a turn check/raise?
I think I manage to bet the river too when no one raises the turn.
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Me too... donks call me down here with JT
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G_host
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Yes I agree, I know value betting the river is the part where I'm lacking right now jut having hard time placing people on worse hand than mine and still call on the river even if I see this time after time....
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Fnord
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A turn c/r would quickly tell you who had Qx or better.
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RiverMonkey
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2004
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I like a Turn CR assuming that the manical button is the likely bettor.
That would make it two back to the CO who will have a tougher decision to make; if he folds we've up'ed our equity. If he's on a str8 draw we've charged him the max.
The way it played, I also like a thin value bet on the river if no str8 card falls. Although you gotta be SLIGHTLY worried about a donk calling station having a Q, but that's rare enough to discount in all but the donkiest of games.
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G_host
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Straight
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Say that I would have CR on the turn and CO had called 2 bets. What would you have put him on then. This was this on the 4-5 orbit on a newly started table, only info I had on him was that he called to much pf, wasn't overly aggro post folp and hadn't called down all his hands.
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Ltrain
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miami, Florida
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Originally Posted by G_host
Say that I would have CR on the turn and CO had called 2 bets. What would you have put him on then. This was this on the 4-5 orbit on a newly started table, only info I had on him was that he called to much pf, wasn't overly aggro post folp and hadn't called down all his hands.
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Q,x, probably little. Sets or fullhouse raises, A,Q raises the flop.
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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G_host
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Straight
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Location: Sweden
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Well off to bed so I just give you the hands if you want to know.
Button on 99 and CO on J9o...
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