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DrivingDog
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02-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Post subject: funny guy
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 923
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Ok I ran into this real weird player at 10/20 (it's Sunday what do you expect?). He's 80/20/1.5.
Everytime I'm involved in a hand with him, he calls on the flop and turn (regardless, it would seem, of any cards that are in his hand or on the board). Which is fine with me.
But then, after c/c'ing the whole way, he donks the river if it is at all scary, or if he has any pair. So villian has K high, but the river puts the third flush card out - donk! Villian has Q3, board is K4743 - donk! Villian has 55, board is 789TA - donk!
Occasionally (like 1/5 times) he actually has the scare card he's representing, but mostly it just seems like some weird play he makes.
My question is, is there any value in raising this guy with a good hand, like TPGK? I mean, should we expect him to call a raise with his bottom pair since he's already bet out?
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
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Does he call raises with the hands he's donk betting with?
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DrivingDog
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Full House
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
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I never did raise him as the board had always completed some draw or was paired, etc., and so don't know what he would have done. I just figured there wasn't any value in raising a TP-type hand since I'd been betting the whole way.
I think once or twice I'd checked the turn with A high and he donked the river then as well. But what surprised me was when he'd do it after I'd been betting the whole way. weird.
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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).
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arborman
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 300
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Sounds like a wonderfully exploitable tendency.
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Hermann the Lombard
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 270
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Originally Posted by DrivingDog
I never did raise him as the board had always completed some draw or was paired, etc., and so don't know what he would have done.
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Well, you could go ahead and raise him with TPTK and get a sample size of one (presumably that will be the one time in five when he has the hand)  or you can wait until YOU have the hand and raise him then. Also obviously watch when somebody else re-raises the villain.
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Oh, no! Not another learning experience!
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Hermann the Lombard
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Originally Posted by DrivingDog
I never did raise him as the board had always completed some draw or was paired, etc., and so don't know what he would have done.
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Well, you could go ahead and raise him with TPTK and get a sample size of one (presumably that will be the one time in five when he has the hand) or you can wait until YOU have the hand and raise him then. Also obviously watch when somebody else re-raises the villain. |
If the guy is making this play all the time, you can raise him the very next time you have a strong one pair hand or better at very little risk.
Since you're hoping to learn whether or not he will call, you would like to actually have a hand when he does, so the only criteria in my opinion is that you not make the play as a bluff initially, and be willing to call a 3-bet.
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