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Trikflow77
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01-25-2005, 09:57 PM
Post subject: FTR new poster some vpip questions
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Hi I am new to these fourms and i like the advise given out. I am a 2/4 4 to 8 tabler on party and I my pt vpip is 15.18%. I have looked alot at other players stats and it seems that the optimal vpip is about 18-19%. My question is how to get this up without playing junk (k10 jq kj all off suit of course) from early position. I also do not cold call raises so I can not see a way to raise my vpip. My only guess would be to play more hands on the button. My sample size is around 10000 hands so I know its not optimal and the 2+2ers would gripe at me.....but thats why im over here. Any input would be great. Thanks Chase
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Humphrind
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You are 8 tabling 2/4 with a 15% VPIP. And you have about 10K of hands under your belt. Are you profitable? I'd say this is the big question.
The only thing I can think to say is that you need to raise more and call less. If you are satisfied with your play and are running a good profit, I don't see much else you need to do.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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Fnord
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You're not much tighter than I am.
Most of my hands above that mark are isolation plays or blind wars.
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elipsesjeff
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01-25-2005, 11:01 PM
Post subject: Re: FTR new poster some vpip questions
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
Hi I am new to these fourms and i like the advise given out. I am a 2/4 4 to 8 tabler on party and I my pt vpip is 15.18%. I have looked alot at other players stats and it seems that the optimal vpip is about 18-19%. My question is how to get this up without playing junk (k10 jq kj all off suit of course) from early position. I also do not cold call raises so I can not see a way to raise my vpip. My only guess would be to play more hands on the button. My sample size is around 10000 hands so I know its not optimal and the 2+2ers would gripe at me.....but thats why im over here. Any input would be great. Thanks Chase
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Whats your name on Party? So I can avoid your rock a$$.
4-8 tabler on party I would think to increase those extra 2-3% (i think 17% is optimal myself) to play more out of the small blind could add maybe .5%, loosen up when fish are at the tables. Also, whats your Blind Steal/Defense rate? This could increase that number some too.
But I would think anything more than 17 vpip on 8 tables would be a pain. I would like to see a win rate.
Welcome to the forum, your words are welcome here, don't be afraid to post advice although you are new. And 2+2 can go screw themselves....
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Trikflow77
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My total aggression is 3.06 so I dont think I need to raise more and call less.
my win rate is 3.22 bb/100 at 2/4 on party....I have over 100k hands on ub, I just recently switched to party/empire. the rest of my stats
went to showdown 31.69
won at showdown 58.47
pf raise % 7.8
I am not too agressive in the blinds unless i have a good read on the player playing. My fold to steal rates are 86% and 84%..... I guess I need to defend my blinds more often.
One other question I had is where do I get that hand converter so I can post hands on here. Thanks for the help Chase
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Fnord
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We should hook up on IRC sometime. I'd love to swap hand history blocks with you.
In brief, you should defend more and steal more. That will get up your VP$IP and PFR into a more sharky range.
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elipsesjeff
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NICE stats trikflow, get ur ass on IRC now man.
Did I tell you about FTR over the weekend when we were playing (sig: coderedruled?) I was playing with mike4066....
If so, i think i should get some kind of royalty...
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Trikflow77
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Thanks guys, I would steal more but the volume of tables I play puts me in autofold mode more often. My pfr on ub was over 9% over about 100,000 hands so it might go up a bit on party. Were are you guys at on irc so I can head that way... I'm not very familiar with irc but i have the program. Thanks Chase
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
Were are you guys at on irc so I can head that way... I'm not very familiar with irc but i have the program. Thanks Chase
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Link in upper right corner.
See the sticky for information on posting hand histories.
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lolzzz_321
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03-06-2006, 09:37 PM
Post subject: Re: FTR new poster some vpip questions
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Originally Posted by Trikflow77
Hi I am new to these fourms and i like the advise given out. I am a 2/4 4 to 8 tabler on party and I my pt vpip is 15.18%. I have looked alot at other players stats and it seems that the optimal vpip is about 18-19%. My question is how to get this up without playing junk (k10 jq kj all off suit of course) from early position. I also do not cold call raises so I can not see a way to raise my vpip. My only guess would be to play more hands on the button. My sample size is around 10000 hands so I know its not optimal and the 2+2ers would gripe at me.....but thats why im over here. Any input would be great. Thanks Chase
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Raise more.
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pokerfanatic
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lol i'm sure trickflow knows how to play by now this was in Jan of 2005...
I'm not sure who locked this topic but good play...
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