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Hate
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02-22-2006, 11:35 AM
Post subject: Are the FPPs enough to warrant NOT moving to Party?
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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First, a bit of background. I'm from Romania, which is important because of the time difference. At the hour I'm posting, I am able to start a 2.5-3 hour session which would give me my daily 1000 hands requirement 4 tabling 6max. IF I have 4 tables.
Playing at PokerStars, this doesn't happen at this time of day(~7.5k players online). Thus, I need to play in the evenings (various inconveniences, one of which being that I'm not ALLOWED to play poker, and in the evenings I might get caught, whereas in the afternoon I am home alone. Lame, but...what can ya do?).
So, as a 1/2 - 2/4 6max LHE player, I have 7.5k players in the afternoon on PS, making it impossible to find 4 1/2 or 2/4 6max tables, and in the evening I have a fair number of tables, although my table selection cannot be as rigorous as I would like. On the other hand, party has right now 17k players online and over TEN 1/2 and 2/4(ten of each) full 6max tables + a few with less than 6 going. The advantages are obvious.
HOWEVER, at pokerstars, reaching Goldstar level would earn me over 500 FPPs a day at 2/4 equaling two 9 player SNG qualifiers to the 750k per week, not to mention the various paraphanelia I COULD get, were I to want it. Also, in another month I would reach platinum star which guarantees ONE 100.000$ freeroll per month, one 2.5k per week, one 5k per week and one 7.5k per week.
Also, the advantages of already HAVING a bankroll at pokerstars for when I should desire to play tourneys (i will NOT play MTTs at party with the current structure) is obvious seeing as having a split BR is not an option.
So, it all boils down to: perhaps doubling my hands/day(thus doubling monthly profits) vs the chance to play in huge MTTs for free(FPP qualifiers) and 13 decent (the 100k makes up for the 2.5k ones) tourneys per month totally free.
I'm a ring player at heart and have decided NOT to play further MTTs until fall (except for free ones) as they hurt my bankroll over the short term and I can't get a long term going seeing as I could play maybe 2/week, but the prospective 13 freerolls and possible qualifiers to the 750k (even if I sell the seat) are pretty nice options.
Focus: I'm really having trouble deciding here...help 
Ps. I am aware that party have a reward system also based on points but IIRC it's not as rewarding as the one on PS
I am aware this is probably a huge post...sorry
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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The bulk of your profit is NOT coming from FPPs. They're just stupid incentives. You dont need another pokerstars stressball.
Get to party, where the fish are more plentiful. The money comes from them.
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Hate
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Euphoricism, I know the bulk of the profit does come from there, i'd be a blazing idiot not to realise that.
However, the question I was debating(i think i've already decided to leave stars) was whether those incentives would make up for the added profit I were to make were I to move to party 
Here, the pure psychological value of getting a chance to play(and place) in a 750k guarantee or a 100.000$ freeroll for an 18 year old with huge dreams has a pretty big influence.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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No, the stars incentives will not make up the profit differential.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Originally Posted by Hate
Euphoricism, I know the bulk of the profit does come from there, i'd be a blazing idiot not to realise that.
However, the question I was debating(i think i've already decided to leave stars) was whether those incentives would make up for the added profit I were to make were I to move to party
Here, the pure psychological value of getting a chance to play(and place) in a 750k guarantee or a 100.000$ freeroll for an 18 year old with huge dreams has a pretty big influence. |
At the stakes you play you'll earn enough Party Points per week to play the weekly 100,000 party for free tournament.
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Hate
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Right, so anyone want 1500$ on stars vs 1500$ on party? 
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Why not just move it yourself?
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Hate
Right, so anyone want 1500$ on stars vs 1500$ on party? |
Yes, why not move it yourself? I have enough funds to do that transfer for you if needed.
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Hate
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Have had trouble using CC to deposit at party in the past, and MB is out of the question, but I've sent the withdrawal request to PS anyway so I guess I'll just try to do it myself via CC.
I hate my country :/
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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neteller? Firepay?
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ArcticKnight
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Right, so anyone want 1500$ on stars vs 1500$ on party? |
Yes, why not move it yourself? I have enough funds to do that transfer for you if needed. |
Hiltz.......the girl in your avatar........wow.....I'm a Flyers fan again..
Tell me she's a model and not your girlfriend...??
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Gone golfing ..see ya in the Fall of 2006
PS. What did the snail on the turtle's back say?
Wheeeeeeeee........
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Hate
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
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euphoricism, Romanians don't have the option of using either firepay OR neteller.
Withdrew from Pokerstars yesterday, so i'll go get the money tomorrow hopefully, deposit to my CC and se if I can deposit on party.
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Hate
Right, so anyone want 1500$ on stars vs 1500$ on party? |
Yes, why not move it yourself? I have enough funds to do that transfer for you if needed. |
Hiltz.......the girl in your avatar........wow.....I'm a Flyers fan again..
Tell me she's a model and not your girlfriend...?? |
She was part of the Flyers Girls team at the start of the season.
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renegaderob1
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Hey Hate,
what part of Romania? I was born in Brasov (live in Australia now)...
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Roll Rebuilding (for the second time). Current; $1600 from $300 (previous, $2300 from $15)
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Hate
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Flush
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