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Chicago_Kid

02-10-2005, 02:47 PM Post subject: Four Hands for Review...

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Four hands, please. Thanks again for the feedback.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Chicago_Kid is MP1 with T

, T

.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Chicago_Kid raises, MP2 3-bets, 5 folds, UTG calls, Chicago_Kid calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 5

, J

, 6

(3 players)
UTG checks, Chicago_Kid bets, MP2 raises, UTG folds, Chicago_Kid folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

Results in white below:
No showdown. MP2 wins 6.75 BB.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Chicago_Kid is BB with 7

, 8

. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) checks, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Chicago_Kid checks.

Flop: (8 SB) 2

, 6

, 9

(8 players)
SB checks, Chicago_Kid checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, SB calls, Chicago_Kid calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q

(6 players)
SB checks, Chicago_Kid checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, SB calls, Chicago_Kid calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (11 BB) T

(4 players)
SB checks, Chicago_Kid checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, SB folds, Chicago_Kid calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below:
Chicago_Kid has 7c 8s (straight, ten high).
CO has Td Qh (two pair, queens and tens).
Outcome: Chicago_Kid wins 13 BB.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Chicago_Kid is SB with 4

, A

.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 4 folds, Chicago_Kid completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q

, A

, 6

(4 players)
Chicago_Kid bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (3 BB) J

(2 players)
Chicago_Kid bets, UTG raises, Chicago_Kid calls.

River: (7 BB) 8

(2 players)
Chicago_Kid checks, UTG bets, Chicago_Kid calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Kh Ts (straight, ace high).
Chicago_Kid has 4s As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins 9 BB.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Chicago_Kid is BB with Q

, Q

.
3 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Chicago_Kid raises, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J

, 4

, A

(5 players)
SB checks, Chicago_Kid bets, MP1 raises $1 (All-In), CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Chicago_Kid calls.

Turn: (7 BB) T

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (7 BB) K

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 7 BB

Results in white below:
Chicago_Kid has Qd Qh (straight, ace high).
MP1 has Ts 3h (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Chicago_Kid wins 7 BB.

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Fnord

02-10-2005, 03:09 PM

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Hand 1: Big pot, I call it down. MP2 plays AK/AQ like that too often.
Hand 2: Bet the flop, raise the river.
Hand 3: Small pot, your weak Ace is smoked, fold the turn.
Hand 4: Yup

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02-10-2005, 03:12 PM

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Ahnd 1: Depends on your read of him as a player, but it certainly smells like an overpair. Probably a good laydown, but can't say without reads.

Hand 2: I'd call it fairly well played On the turn your getting 8-1 on your call for a 6-1 shot. I probably raise the river here. I don't think CO has the flush. If you get reraised, I'd just call.

Hand 3: Not a bad limp. Good on the flop. The Check raise obviously sets of some alarms. I probably figure I'm outkicked and lay it down. If the pot were larger, I might call down, but it's not enough to fight over.

Hand 4: Nothing more you can do.

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02-10-2005, 03:24 PM

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Quote:

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Hand 3: Not a bad limp. Good on the flop. The Check raise obviously sets of some alarms. I probably figure I'm outkicked and lay it down. If the pot were larger, I might call down, but it's not enough to fight over.

Limp? It's a bloody easy small blind completion. On the turn I'm worried about a lot better hands than just a stronger Ace.

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02-10-2005, 03:38 PM

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Not a big fan of baby suited aces in a full ring game. That's just me. And if I hit a hand, it's got to be more than just an ace/crap kicker. Heads up, maybe I play it... but if I get played back with, I figure he's on AT least a bigger ace. Of course the draws are out there. I didn't ignore those...

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02-10-2005, 03:46 PM

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he was in the small blind.

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02-10-2005, 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortune 500

Sissy.

A9s-A2s make more money per hand for me than 22-55. Heck, over 40k hands of 2/4 and 3/6 22-55 collectivly aren't much better than break even. Granted, I was probably over-playing them.

A pair of Aces is g00t. Worry about being out-kicked pre-flop. The MONSTER you scoop when your flush hits makes the hand profitable and at the end of the day that's all that really matters.

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02-10-2005, 04:10 PM

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Sissy? Perhaps.

I didn't say he shouldn't play it. But he didn't hit the flop hard enough for my tastes to be calling raises... particularly in a small pot. You think you can make money in limit if you hit the nut flush? Really

?

I certainly don't question your limit knowledge Fnord... I'm simply saying that if my opponent comes alive and all I've got is an ace with a buried kicker on a dangerous board, I'm getting the hell outta dodge in this baby pot. I don't think we're really far off on our answers here.

he has no draw. It's irrelevant in this hand. If he had a flush or a straight draw, it might be worth calling down. For the 4BB that's in the pot by the time hes checkraised, it's simply not worth it. He's probably drawing dead here.

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02-10-2005, 04:14 PM

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I already said this was a turn fold. I just think your attitude reguarding weak suited aces sucks and I'm going to kick the ass of anyone making a seriously flawed assertion. In a full ring game suited Aces ROCK for 1 bet, 2 bets in a big multi-pot or on a blind steal/defense.

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02-10-2005, 04:25 PM

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I said it wasn't a bad limp. That in no way implies he shouldn't have played it.

But weak aces are marginal. You have to approach them pretty much as drawing hands. They're no different from any other drawing hand in my eyes. A single pair... even Top pair... is no good against a raise with a crap kicker multiway without that draw to bail you out. For a 1/2 a small bet? Sure. Calling down in a tiny pot? Depends on the read, but it's all situational - Like everything else in poker.

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02-10-2005, 04:57 PM

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Yeah, I felt stupid on that A4 hand...should have folded on the turn. Just a bad play on my part.

I also appreciate the comments on H2 (my str8 that I didn't raise). I felt stupid after this, cause there was a very rare chance someone had the flush. Afterwards, I felt like I should have raised the river---I would have gotten paid off.

Trying to work on my river aggression which is not good right now, and I'm losing value on these plays.

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