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Old 12-16-2005, 07:01 PM     Post subject: Found a little guide to limit tourneys from Al Spath #1 (permalink)  
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MAJOR LIMIT TOURNAMENTS

If you read one of my lessons at the PokerSchoolOnline classroom, you will note that I believe discipline and patience are the keys to winning these types of events, as well as winning at anything you play. You will be playing for hours; tedious amounts of time to make it to the payout spots and you cannot afford to invest money (entry and admin fees) and all that time without getting paid off. Your first goal is to survive the early rounds and once again, save your chips for when the betting limits go up (third round or so), unless you pick up a huge pair and can add some chips to your stack. Once you reach a level where your raise can impact your opponent, you should start to attack, steal, and occasionally bluff your way to victory. Note: Bluffing in limit tournaments rarely works, especially at the lower limits. Towards the end of the event, when chip stack disparities are greater and the blinds are huge, bluffs can indeed be made successfully. In summary, in a limit tournament, early attempts at bluffing will give you an early exit. It’s just not a good idea and should be avoided.

Limping into pots is totally unacceptable, unless several favorable conditions exist. You must be in late position (preferably on the button), or in one of the blinds, in an unraised pot, with a good number of limpers already in before it is your time to act, and you are holding a hand that plays well against a large numbers of players. Small and medium pairs play well in this spot, along with suited connectors. If these conditions exist, you are getting the right pot odds to limp. So raise if you are first to play with premium cards, avoid calling other raises, and just about eliminate calling two or three bets cold. You will notice as play continues, those who do not show the discipline and patience you show, will play small pairs and other hands like ace/suited in early position and have early exits.

Many players insist luck has everything to do with sustained success in these multi-table events, and I would agree that the element of luck would play a part at several junctures along the way. Lee Trevino once said: “The more I practice, the luckier I seem to get.” So, there will be a few coin toss decisions along the way and luck may indeed play a factor in you surviving or not. Don’t discount it; you need all the advantages that can come your way.

As the tournament enters the final phase of the event, chip stack size (who said size doesn’t count) will factor in greatly. The advantage of having a great deal of ammunition allows you to attack smaller stacks and those playing extremely tight (in hopes of making it off the bubble). You should not allow a blind hand to see a flop without calling a raise if you can help it, nor should anyone else at your table. An added plus with a big stack is that you can also wait for a hand and you don’t have to make a stand or squander any chips when you don’t have the cards to enter a pot.

Once the table becomes short-handed, switch gears and play even more aggressively. Your ability to evaluate your holding and take the proper action is critical in defeating those opponents at the table with lesser skills. Hand values continue to increase as the number of players decrease. Be at ease if knocked out when you are betting, and be bitter if you are eliminated when you are just a calling station. Be the aggressor, apply relentless pressure, make quick, sound decisions, and you will find yourself in the money more often than otherwise. If you don’t make it to the top, finishing second, third, or fourth is good money too, but set your goal at winning it all, and do not just settle for second best.

Finally, those who settle for just competing, having fun, expecting to make some money, are long term losing players. Don’t set your expectations low, think winning it all, ensure you make it into the money spots every time, and don’t let a bad beat along the way change your determination and commitment to play with discipline and patience in every event you enter.

-- Al Spath

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Old 12-16-2005, 07:23 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Nothing new really. I was hoping he'd go into specific strategies or different plays or anything. I say this is incomplete at best. What he said could basically be parlayed into any tournament, no limit or limit.

I play the Super Wednesday every week as well as the 109s MTTs on Party and the 215s on Stars (and the $11RA on Stars), and his 'strategy' doesnt seem that it would fit real well.

He downplays the importance of building a stack early, especially at the Party games, where it is necessary to stay ahead of the blinds. Also, he says to NOT cold call in these games, which as the blinds get bigger is incorrect. I believe Annie Duke said that you need to cold call more in these games; the initiative you gain post flop by 3 betting not worth the probability that you are going to showdown anyway (as opponents will not fold a better hand). You absolutely need to conserve chips when you are behind and value bet when you are ahead. In more marginal situations I'm more likely to checkbehind on the river and fold earlier in the hand.

Other than the $215 on Stars (where i've seen lots of pros, gank, samenole, johnnybax, etc) The players in these tournaments are retarded and you really have to hope your big hands dont get crapped on.

In the 215 I'm trying a new Shania/metagame strategy where playing like an idiot for one hand early will pay me off huge in the later rounds. It actually worked, last week I had a guy CC my raise with K8, turn bottom pair and call me down. If it wasnt for a mean set over set, I woulda had a nice stack. However, in the other tournaments an argument can be made that your opponents dont pay attention, so in reality this is just spewage, so I agree on that as well.

Mike4066, Ihategnomes, Euphoricism and myself (Koolmoe lately too) all play in the Super Wednesday (Party's LHE MTT), and we've all gotten pretty deep. Ihategnomes won a $20 LHE Freeze I believe and I took down a $10 RA on Stars. Between Mike and myself, we've played that RA on Stars 6 times, We've monied it 4 and FT it twice (with Mike bubbling out once and once before the FT as well.

There is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be playing these tournaments. So much dead money in the pot its awesome.


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What should my basic strategy be? I'm thinking about playing 20+2$ Deepstacked mtt tonight on stars...
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What should my basic strategy be? I'm thinking about playing 20+2$ Deepstacked mtt tonight on stars...
Drink a pot of coffee before hand. (seriously)

More relevantly, play some Party LHE SNGs and work your own strategy out. Nothing works better than practice.


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