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Old 07-27-2008, 09:00 AM     Post subject: Flopping mid set on 3-straight board #1 (permalink)  

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This table had been semi-tight this far, so with this much action preflop, I put people on med/high PPs and face cards

On the flop, I couldn't really convince myself I was behind to a straight, but MP2's reraise potentially put him on JJ (I pegged him for a pp JJ-AA), which is why I only called down.

Would you guys have played this any differently?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 3-bets, 5 folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 caps, MP2 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (19.40 SB) , , (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (13.70 BB) (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

River: (17.70 BB) (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 20.70 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Tc Td (three of a kind, tens).
MP1 doesn't show.
MP2 has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 20.70 BB.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:08 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I check-raise the turn to charge draws. MP2 has AA, KK or QQ here much more often than JJ or KQ.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:44 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Waaaayyyyyyy too passive!

Cap preflop! Lead/ reraise flop! If you got flop raised from LP, C/R turn.

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Old 07-27-2008, 11:49 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hero re-raises and hopes to cap the flop....

You're about 30 Ish percent to hit your quads or FH by the river.

Check call on the turn is not wrong. By any means, because you have tons of equity in a bunch of callers. But is there a better way to protect your hand? In short yes. A check raise will force your opponents drawing to a gutshot (AK) to fold if they think that their A or their K is bad. (at least they should fold because they aren't gettin' 10-1. (Also if you had check/called on the flop and check raised on the turn you would have driven out even bigger ranges.)

Finally on the river. Bet/call or check /call is fine. you certainly can't fold. It depends on how good the opponent is that is calling. I'm leaning more towards Bet/call unless my opponent has KK more than he has KQ or JJ here. AA is a valid argument also.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:12 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hero re-raises and hopes to cap the flop....

You're about 30 Ish percent to hit your quads or FH by the river.

Check call on the turn is not wrong. By any means, because you have tons of equity in a bunch of callers. But is there a better way to protect your hand? In short yes. A check raise will force your opponents drawing to a gutshot (AK) to fold if they think that their A or their K is bad. (at least they should fold because they aren't gettin' 10-1. (Also if you had check/called on the flop and check raised on the turn you would have driven out even bigger ranges.)

Finally on the river. Bet/call or check /call is fine. you certainly can't fold. It depends on how good the opponent is that is calling. I'm leaning more towards Bet/call unless my opponent has KK more than he has KQ or JJ here. AA is a valid argument also.
Never C/C flop! B/C flop. C/R turn.

You could easily mix up play by Bet/3bet flop... C/R turn, making it look like you missed your draw.

Jam preflop...DO NOT C/C flop.
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